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== Prisoner of the Daleks ==
== Re: Re: Apology ==
Hi, you were correct that I listened to ''Prisoner'' as an audiobook. While I realise it's not a conventional audio story it was my first experience of ''Doctor Who'' in the audio medium so it took the place. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:14, September 25, 2019 (UTC)
You'll get no more clarity from me. I ignored you for a reason because you, like always, were going round in circles to get the final word. You are an admin, act like it. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:24, 20 September 2023 (UTC)


i read the talk page of the other in there i read you will make a page for the stranger
== btw ==
you know i think stranger the other (11th doctor) are the same doctor in that era still can use his own tardis not to get back to his own he cant do that but you said when he first go there it was after the omegas death but he can time travel in gallifreys own time he possibly go there with tardis there are the same other and the stranger 11th doctor other comes from the future the stranger the other comes from the future also


== Re:forum post ==
You might want to protect [[Doctor Who]] (just because that page probably should be protected) and block the vandal. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:06, 21 September 2023 (UTC)


Hi I am referring to your post to [[User:Amorkuz]] that he must follow [[Tardis:You are bound by current policy]]. That's not your job to decide, mention, or enforce.
== Admin help ==


Please please please stop trying to second-guess everything said by the admins. We are trying our best to enforce the rules and educate the users, and it doesn't help to have users who nit-pick every single post for possible errors. Thanks [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:13, October 4, 2019 (UTC)
Can I get an admin's eyes on [[Forum:TV Comic & other periodical issues]]? I just feel like I've been attacked in a very inappropriate way. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]][[User Talk:OttselSpy25|🤙☎️]] 05:37, 22 September 2023 (UTC)


== Late answer ==
== The Encyclopedia ==


Hi, apologies, I was away from the wiki for a few days and when I came back I had several messages waiting for me. Somehow I overlooked your signature and answered your questions on someone else's talk page.
An example.
:''Coffa: One of Jabe’s associates from the Forest of Cheem aboard Platform One. He was distressed to hear of Jabe’s death from the Doctor. (1 .2) (Played by PAUL CASEY)''
[[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] [[User talk:MrThermomanPreacher|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:11, 22 September 2023 (UTC)


It's not a bug that the 10000 thread was not in [[Board:The Matrix Archives]]. When I close a recently debated thread, I leave it in the original board for a bit, because these boards, and especially The Matrix, are '''excruciatingly difficult''' to search, and I want to make it easier for those who have been reading/participating to find it. I did move it yesterday, so now it's in The Matrix.
==Dirk Gently==
Hi Scrooge,
You said at [[Talk:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (series)]] that you were going to make a thread on Dirk Gently. Do you mind if I make it, as I have a vague idea of how to do it, or do you want to do it? [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]]  13:06, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


And I've left the issue of whether to allow 10000 to [[User:Amorkuz]] and the other two admins, since they were the ones who did the major amount of research into this issue.
: Okay. [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]] 13:17, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


Thanks and sorry for the confusion. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:37, October 24, 2019 (UTC)
== Popping in to ask ==


== DCtT ==
How's [[User:Najawin/Sandbox 9]]'s sections (in terms of subsections + pictures? - best to scroll down a bit for best effect) this time? [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:59, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
:Alright, so whenever you think that should go live. (Obviously others can edit whenever they wish. Changes are still desired, especially since there's no S13 summary.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:16, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
::Could you push them live when you have the time? Cheers. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:26, 8 October 2023 (UTC)


Hey Scrooge, I was just catching up on recent Panopticon threads and stumbled upon [[Thread:232095#11|this post]], where you parenthetically mentioned that
== Companions of the 13th Doctor template action request. ==
{{Quote|Some [invalid stories] were meant as nothing more than a bit of "non-canon" fun, and shouldn't be misconstrued as an intent to make a new continuity. This would, for instance, include most parodies, and even things like ''Death Comes to Time''.}}
I agree with your sentiment, and the parodies example is unimpeachable. But upon reflection, I realized you might not be familiar with the award-winning audio series ''[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Podcast/TheMinisterOfChance The Minister of Chance]'', which was written by the author of ''Death Comes to Time'' in a very real attempt to continue the new Doctor Who Universe continuity started in that story. Maybe you already knew about this, but I feel as if it's aligned with your interests, so I just figured I'd mention it! – [[User:NateBumber|<span title="User:NateBumber">N8</span>]] ([[User_talk:NateBumber|<span title="Leave me a note">☎</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/NateBumber|<span title="Spy on my edits">👁️</span>]]) 15:12, December 13, 2019 (UTC)


== Re: Clown Court ==
As the Template for the Companions of the 13th Doctor is Locked (for good reasons), and I have suggested adding [[Different (Canaries)]]to the template but no one has replied to this (also understandable most people can be very busy). So I am making my pitch to you because on the talk page you have been the only active admin.
at the end of [[The Paradox Moon (short story)]]Siblijg Different now going by Mae sets of into the universe travelling with the 13th Doctor. May I thus suggest you ad Different to said template, thank you. [[User:Anastasia Cousins|Anastasia Cousins]] [[User talk:Anastasia Cousins|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)


Hi, I hope you understand that the reason why only admins are "allowed" to do certain things on the wiki is to keep new/inexperienced users from making mistakes that take time and effort to clean up. Allowing experienced editors to occasionally do such things might give new users the idea that it's ok for anyone to do it. So the rules are pretty strictly enforced for that reason.
:: Thank you [[User:Anastasia Cousins|Anastasia Cousins]] [[User talk:Anastasia Cousins|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:45, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


At any rate, [[Thread:211580]] ruled that DW skits in '''other shows''' don't need their own pages, but should be placed on [[Cultural references to the Doctor Who universe]]. The [[Clown Court special (TV story)]] is part of the Noel Edmonds Saturday something, and that is '''not''' a DW production, so its information should be put on the applicable [[Cultural references to the Doctor Who universe]] page, and then it should be deleted (as should [[Noel Edmond's Saturday Roadshow special (TV story)]]).
==Re: Life on Magrs stuff==
Yeah, think you're probably right about Autumnal cat drawings; for a start, I hadn't realised about the fact that it's a different fictionalised version of Bernard Socks, and the Manhattan map shouldn't have been created in the first place. Not sure I agree with you about the Iris Wildthyme in the Post, but I'm iffy on that one. The one written in the style of Story of Fester Cat we should probably keep, and I was iffy about the Rue Broca one, but I think that might pass. What's your opinion on the poems? [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]] 20:40, 10 October 2023 (UTC)


Hope this makes sense, thanks [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me"></span>]] 02:28, January 6, 2020 (UTC)
: But if you read {{cs|The Story of Fester Cat (novel)}}, Fester is quite definitely a defined, rounded character. And the same character pops up in ''A Year Since'' and arguably in ''Fester Cat's poem''. And surely that tangible character is copyrightable. (Also, {{cs|Party Like it's 1979 (short story)}} certainly seems to suggest that certain fictional versions of characters reappearing are enough to satisfy rule 2) (can't comment on Bernard Socks, as I haven't read ''Welcome Home'') [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]] 20:57, 10 October 2023 (UTC)


== Arcbeatle deceptive practices ==
:: Well, it has Fester speaking from a posthumous position, which he is able to in ''Story of Fester Cat'', and it also more or less follows on from the end of ''Story of Fester Cat'' I think (but I'm not sure because a) I'm only halfway through the book and b) the book isn't linear). [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]]  21:06, 10 October 2023 (UTC)


I'm really glad you asked. Because SOTO does not seem to be willing to allow additional fact finding. They are preparing to close the thread based on their research. Apparently, this research was not as thorough as all that, or else they could have closed the thread yesterday. So they just stifle debate to win more time for themselves. Not sure what precedent they base it on. Not sure how much more time they still need, after 4+ months of silence.
::: Come to think of it, do you think a dead anthropomorphic Fester Cat would be copyrightable? [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]]  21:12, 10 October 2023 (UTC)


So let me explain how Arcbeatle Press games systems without spending too much money. They use the same strategy that Donald Trump used to get into the Forbes listing. The company publicly inflates their capitals, profits, or in this case fan base trying to pretend to be more successful than it is. Preferably, this is done in a hard-to-verify manner. If sufficiently many people buy it, the lie becomes the reality. The best part is that you can ask your friends, girlfriends, etc. to pretend to be fans. You can ask your collaborators to pretend to be independent fans and defend you publicly. The risks for them are low. The benefits for Arcbeatle are high. If you remember, in the first debate, several participants never disclosed their relationship to James Wylder and Arcbeatle Press until I called them out.
== The Curator returns ==


Turns out, the same happened earlier on Amazon, where Wylder publishes their books. Amazon has a review feature but naturally prohibits creators themselves from reviewing their own creations. You might be interested to learn that there Arcbeatle Press had less success than here. One of the people they list as employees was caught reviewing their own books and banned from reviewing on Amazon. This I have a proof of and would be happy to present it on the thread, although I fear SOTO would try to shield Arcbeatle Press from this damaging information coming to light.  
Hey. Finally back again. More stories for you, of course. Massive things. But first: Discord.


Another marketing strategy included Wylder's multiple friends on social networks. He made one of his books free for some time and started asking all his friends to "buy" it. Friends did not lose anything. Apparently, he chose a good week for it because his book became the best "selling" book of the week in the category of ''free'' books in the genre. However, when trumpeting his achievement, Wylder omitted the mention of free and claimed that his book was best selling in this genre.
I've sent a friend request from a new account (Phoenix). We'll catch up there as soon as we're both online at the same time. (Internet access is still very much on the wibbly side.)


We know this strategy is successful: Donald Trump did become the president, after all. The tiny little problem is that people around you, those helping you have to lie. Just a little bit, just a harmless lie to help a friend. They probably even feel good: helping the underdog and stuff.
Mind adding me back to the channel, as well? Love from the Island.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 20:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)


But these lies corrupt. I do not know if you like what is going on around the Arbeatle inclusion debates. Do you enjoy them? Would you like to have more of them? Wouldn't you like Revan to continue his activities, not being embroiled with conflicts of interests? This is the price this community has already paid for lies. I fear we are not done paying.
== Moving N-Space to "Primary universe" ==
I was reading a wiki page here a few days ago, and saw it refer to what has been typically called [[N-Space]] as a default term for the universe the ''Doctor Who'' franchise is set within as the "Primary universe", and I though that would be a good name that would put the "N-Space naming controversy" to rest. Unfortunately, I've forgotten in what story it was referred to as such, and can't citate the reference. I wanted to ask if you thought "Primary universe" would also make a good difference, and if you might know how to find the source? [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:07, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


Sometimes I have questions because I have not been vigilant enough. For instance, in October 2019, James Wylder deleted all messages on his Twitter account. What is he hiding? I do not know.
Truth be told, I wish we could call it "The Doctor's universe" too, but, thanks to one Christopher Chibnall, to call it that would no longer be accurate, since he went out of his way to make it ''not'' the Doctor's universe, but their adopted one. I wonder why we can't just title the page "The Universe", like how Luna is titled [[the Moon]] or Sol is titled [[the Sun]]?[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:38, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


Oh, and if you think that James Wylder never lied about the origins of his literary works, you might be surprised.  
I get what your going with, but I'm afraid I'm too literal minded to accept it. Oh, and sorry about the galleries width. I didn't know it was a rule, I just thought it was picked at random. [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:26, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


Let us see whether SOTO opens up the debate for me to present the evidence I have accumulated of these deceptive practices. I do not actually have a reason to believe you are connected to Arcbeatle Press. Sorry if it sounded like it in my message to SOTO. You can show your neutrality by demanding that this evidence be presented. Then the community can decide whether it is sufficient not to take every marketing statement by Arcbeatle Press as infallible. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me"></span>]] 18:15, January 12, 2020 (UTC)
==Re: And Today, You series==
Okay, thanks. <u>[[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: Georgia ; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Stuff I've done">🖊️</span>]] </u> 12:45, 17 October 2023 (UTC)


: Yes, I certainly do not know why the Twitter was handled that way. But it was not abandoned. James Wylder continues to use Twitter. One just can't see messages older than October. I agree that the deceptive practices I uncovered do not prove the lack of commercial license. However, the only proof of the existence of commercial license comes from James Wylder himself. It is a perfectly legal strategy first to obtain a permission to use some characters on one's blog, then advertise the stories, gather fans' approval, come back to the copyright holders and tell them, "listen, people would really like to buy these things on Kindle. Could you actually extend your license to a commercial one?" It is slightly less honest but still legal to start the same way, and after the stories become available, announce a commercial volume with them, collect likes and Facebook reactions, come to the copyright holders and tell them: "look, I've already promised, and people really like it..." In either of these situations, the actual process of converting a creative license to a commercial license may take time as the latter generally involves actual money, royalties, and other boring stuff accountants care about. In fact, these additional negotiations could be a perfect explanation why Arcbeatle Press has not published the promised volume commercially, while putting a lot of effort into these stories otherwise. Commercial negotiations with multiple parties take time. And we would not be able to tell one of these scenarios from the other because commercial negotiations are almost never public.
: Oops, sorry, didn't notice that. <u>[[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: Georgia ; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Stuff I've done">🖊️</span>]] </u> 06:53, 19 October 2023 (UTC)


: I have been suggesting from at least the middle of the first debate to wait till the stories are released commercially. On August 31, in our private discussions with SOTO, I explicitly stated:
== T:POINT ==
:{{quote|I would not stand in the way of inclusion when the book is published.|Amorkuz to SOTO, August 31, 2019, 10:34}}
Just out of interest, would a NuWho exclusion debate on my part be against T:POINT? <u>[[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: Georgia ; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Stuff I've done">🖊️</span>]] </u> 14:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
: Mind you, CzechOut has long ago warned that a commercial publication is not a definitive proof that all rights have been secured (I think he used fanzines as a counterexample). But when the (most of) rights holders are aware of the publication and the publication is commercial, one could consider it more likely that rights have been obtained.


: Now, on the other hand, all we can see is that the rights holders do not mind the stories being freely available (see, additionally, NateBumber's statement that there is no gatekeeping anyways). Commercial rights may have been obtained from all, or from some with others still under negotiations. In the worst case scenario, by the way, Arcbeatle Press may decide to abandon this project and switch to something new and shiny, like a Cwej-themed anthology, in which case they will have never needed to obtain commercial rights. Or it may be that they would really work hard but negotiations would fall through (for any reason), and again commercial rights would not be obtained for all characters.
: I mean, personally, I interpreted those statements literally, and the point would have been that ordinary rule 4 apparently invalidates what most people are interested in us about. Probably still T:POINT violation, though. <u>[[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: Georgia ; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Stuff I've done">🖊️</span>]] </u> 14:35, 23 October 2023 (UTC)


: In short, anything can happen, and we will not be privy to it. I believe this is behind BF policy of not announcing projects until basically the end of post-production is done. They do not want to withdraw any announcements are are super cautious about it. But there is nothing illegal about overannouncing and then retracting. It is a matter of style. And, as I mentioned earlier, James Wylder often tends to be on the hyperbolic side of things. Nor is he beyond even retracting an already published book. Unlike any other regular publication methods, Amazon self-publishing platform allows to simply withdraw a book. If I understand how Kindle works correctly, it will be erased from all Kindles that downloaded it, as soon as they come online.
== Citesource problem ==


: This, by the way, has been another concern of mine regarding books published via CreateSpace. They are not stable. Authors are free to make changes provided these changes are minor, according to their self-declaration. This is in addition to being able to withdraw already published books. And Arcbeatle Press has done it at least once.  
I feel now is a good time to bring up the problem with the citesource template, if it is indeed preventing story titles from italicising just because they are untitled, which violates a policy I can't remember on how all story names' need to be italicised. Furthur more, is there anything that came be done with hyperlinks such as, ([[COMIC]]: ''Endgame'' (part four)), for example. The brackets within brackets just doesn't jive well. I remember talking about this grievance in a forum, but the forum has not been updates for a while now. [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:30, 27 October 2023 (UTC)


: Alas, I was never able to persuade people to wait for a commercial release. Hence, we are left arguing hypotheticals with very little independently verifiable information. A lot of reasoning on both sides of the debate is of the sort "why else would they do it if not..." and "if they did it this way there in the past, they probably would do it the same way here." [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:02, January 12, 2020 (UTC)
== Sorry ==
 
I figured since some sources are mentioned multiple times, we only need to specify the medium once. But I suppose you're right that context is necessary. Please accept my sincere apology. [[User:BastianBalthazarBux|BastianBalthazarBux]] [[User talk:BastianBalthazarBux|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:26, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 
== Definite article ==
 
Hi, Scrooge. I was just wondering what the current policy is on using the definite article in page names.
 
Specifically, I'm wondering if the likes of [[White Guardian]] and [[Black Guardian]] need to be moved to [[The White Guardian]] and [[The Black Guardian]] to comply with current policy and when pages for non-individuals need the definite article. For instance, why does [[The Dragon Scriptures]] have it when we don't have [[The Time Vortex]] or [[The Scrolls of Gallifrey]]? [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:50, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 
: Okie doke, thanks for that. I haven't been keeping my eye on the forums and just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:51, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 
== Non-valid Continuity sections, categories, and prefixes ==
 
Good evening.
 
I was hoping to find some clarity regarding why continuity sections were being remade from an out-of-universe perspective, when they are reference in-universe events. I had contacted the main advocate of the edits, [[User:Epsilon the Eternal]], and they pointed me in your direction by supplying me with this quote from Forum:Non-valid Continuity sections, categories, and prefixes;
{{quote|Going forward, '''an out-of-universe perspective should be favoured in all continuity sections if possible'''. This is a big ask, and although it's an ideal to trend towards I will not demand that we pull out all stops making valid stories' sections conform to this. However, given that we're going to be creating Continuity sections when none existed, I can and will ask that '''all continuity sections on invalid pages, and "continuity to non-valid sources" sections on valid or invalid pages, be written from an out-of-universe perspective'''. I think that ought to solve Czech's issue, to whatever extent it may have otherwise been a concern.|@Scrooge MacDuck, [[Forum:Non-valid Continuity sections, categories, and prefixes]]}}
 
Readying this, I am given the impression that only stories marked as in-valid are to have out-of-universe written summaries, and that valid stories are to retain an in-universe summery. Am I correct in that assumption?
 
Thank you for your time,
Sincerely,
[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:04, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 
== Recent edits ==
 
I'm coming to you directly to prevent any unneeded unpleasantness from happening, like you thinking I'm a vandal and blocking me over an honest misunderstanding.
 
I promise you I am not removing information, except the occasional titbits that are either incorrect or unrelated the the article. At worse, I'm just rewording some sentences to get more direct to the point and "trimming the fat", to coin a phrase, to avoid repetition. My main goal is to update the articles now that I have full access to the source material as part of my research into the Fourteenth Doctor's character in preparation for upcoming 2023 specials. Believe me, I dislike it when users delete information, too.
 
I hope to settles any trouble that has been caused.
Sincrely,
[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:40, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 
:: Oh the removal of ''Whotopia: The Ultimate Guide to the Whoniverse'' was no accident, for two reasons. 1) It says "appears" and "imply", which means it is speculative and speculation has always been taboo on this wiki. 2) It dabbles in timelines, which have long been relegated to theory forums unless absolutely needed, in conjunction with the taboo against speculation. These points, plus its evident irrelevance to the short story itself, are why I took the initiative and removed it. [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:18, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 
Editors shouldn't have to explain ''every'' edit they make, otherwise the wiki wouldn't feel like a safe place for contribution. I'll have been editing for 10 years next June, and we've done fine with some good faith and talking it out if there's a disagreement. [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:26, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 
Would it be possible to get a link to a list of these policies? Because everyone's been coming out the woodworks lately throwing words like T:NPOV, BOUND and "by policy" at me, and I have no idea what they're talking about half the time. I'm just trying to edit like I always have, and seems I'm out of the loop on certain updates. [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:36, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 
== Forum:Clarifying in-universe deadnaming policy in response to Rose Noble ==
 
Hello. I am sorry for bothering you about this but I would like you to take a look at Forum:Clarifying in-universe deadnaming policy in response to Rose Noble as I feel that anonymous user 51.191.137.161 is skirting a bit to close to transphobia. (I am not saying they are but as a trans person I feel they are on the very edge of it) I would like you to at least step in and remained everyone to stay civil and polite. But due to the anonymous user having no prior contributions before this forum I feel that they really just  arrived here specifically to add to this forum. Not to mention their constant accusations of that trans people are trying to make themselves the centre of the world which to me feels very very close to Transphobia and has made me rather uncomfortable. I added my views on the subject and soon after they immediately accused me of calling them cis and and said that is it foolish of me to think that trans people know more about being trans than cis people. I had not accused them of being cis. I was not even referring to anyone in particular. As well as arguing for real world people to have their deadnames on this wiki which I believe would be in breach of fandom policy. Now I will leave it up to you to decide what to do but please at the very least just step in and make sure everyone is playing nicely.
and if I am in the wrong at any point in this please do inform. [[User:Anastasia Cousins|Anastasia Cousins]] [[User talk:Anastasia Cousins|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:05, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 
== Peri ==
 
Hi, Scrooge. I'm a little confused. Is there no limit to the length a story's coverage can be on a character's page anymore? [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 
: I extended it from three sentences to five before you reverted it. The biography as it is now doesn't actually integrate anything from other sources beyond two insights into Peri's thoughts and feelings from the novelisation. I don't really see the value in detailing absolutely everything she does in that one story and think the important things can easily be trimmed down by several hundred words.
 
:: Upon arriving on [[Thoros-Beta]], Peri and the Doctor were attacked by [[the Raak]] and captured by [[Kiv]]'s men, but they managed to escape with [[Yrcanos]] after [[Crozier]] attempted to interrogate him to learn what provoked the Raak. The Doctor began behaving oddly and betrayed his friends to [[Sil]], leading Peri, Yrcanos and [[Dorf]] to stir up rebellion amongst the [[Thoros-Alphan]]s until they were stunned by [[Frax]] and imprisoned.
 
:: Peri was chosen by Crozier to become the host for Kiv's [[brainwave]]s. Assisted by [[Kani|Matrona Kani]], he experimented upon her, resulting in her mind being erased and Kiv taking control of her body. To prevent Crozier's discovery from making Kiv [[immortality|immortal]] and affecting [[evolution]] across the universe, the [[High Council]] used Yrcanos as an unwitting [[assassin]] to kill Kiv by destroying Peri's body with a [[CD phaser]] soon after the successful transfer. ([[TV]]: {{cs|Mindwarp (TV story)}})
 
: If that's not enough, I'm really going to have to go over everything I've written on her page, which I've limited to the key parts of her involvement in stories rather than complete walkthroughs. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:27, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 
:: In which case, I'll aim for that much. At its current length, it's a bit indigestible. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 
== About spoilers ==
 
Just a double check. As it currently stands, I presume the policy on [[T:SPOIL ALLOW]] means spoilers are disallowed on any talk page outside of those limited examples right? Does it mean stuff in the Tardis talk: namespace, for instance? -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 16:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
: Alright, but what I said before appears to also apply to the caveats in [[T:OFFICIAL INFO]], too. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 17:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 
== [[Bulgaria school murder]] ==
 
Hi, Scrooge. Got a familiar bit of spam at this page and its talk page. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:52, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== Cite source template clarification needed ==
Hello Scrooge. Hope all has been well. Congrats on being a staff by the way! Great to see you are still around ^_^ Was hoping you could help me clarify a matter.
 
Given Doctor Who was off air for about a year, I have come back to find there is this new “cite source” template used on TARDIS for citing stories as we have always done here with in-line citations and so forth. However, while editing, I have noticed there is inconsistency in which style is used among various editors and also within articles on the wiki. For example, in the same section “cite source” is used for one story but the next it is the classic “[[TV]]: Story” style.
 
I checked the policy pages but am struggling to find the new “cite source” one; the T:CITE one still commands the usage of the classic style. Therefore, I thought it best to ask you which one we are meant to be using or if we are indeed using all three variations but it depends on the circumstances (in-universe or out-universe, real world articles or character articles). Can you help provide some clarification?
 
I look forward to hearing your reply! [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue">  </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 22:16, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 
:Ahhh, okay then! So I do use it and where I see someone is using the old style or where the old style is still on the article, I should convert it to the new “cite source” one in all cases (regardless of the article)? [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue">  </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 22:39, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 
::Great! The wider editing base is aware of this change yes? Some editors appear to keep reverting my changes regarding this style; edit warring risks occurring it seems if editors aren’t aware and I keep having to change them back to the “cite source” style - loads more work too. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue">  </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 17:36, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== Executive decisions ==
 
When you've the time, [[Talk:Disney+ (in-universe)]] and [[Talk:Wild Blue Yonder (TV story)]] have stalled out discussion (imo) and could use an admin to make final calls on their topics. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:08, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== Page deletion ==
 
If you've the time, [[From the Doctor to My Son Thomas]] is just fundamentally flawed and should be deleted. It's blatantly plagiarized from wikipedia. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:17, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
:Also, if you (or any admin who's online and reading talk pages) could have a look at [[Isaac Newton]] when you've the chance. The original IP user who accused me of violating [[T:NPOV]] is back and is [[T:VAN|vandalizing]] (#6) the page after Nate's ruling, refusing to accept it or move to the talk page. Blocking them and/or locking the page might be needed. (I'm removing myself as it's probably bordering on [[T:NO WARS]] here, even if it's technically vandalism.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:29, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== Re:R4bp ==
 
As far as that thread goes, I'm perfectly willing to call that thread unresolved and start over, perhaps with a more narrow scope, or with a more structured framework for how to proceed. It's been two months just about since the last bit of movement there, and I'd have to reread the whole thing if there was a new response anyhow.
 
I do think there was some interesting lines of thought that we were working on, but the thread just became so ''long'' that there were, what, four, five of us who were engaged at the end? And those who tapped out earlier on missed out on just large swathes of that discussion. It seems a bit unreasonable for, in effect, four or five users to be having a discussion that's this foundational and everyone else to be filibustered out. But at the same time the issues at play ''are'' complicated and ''do'' require a lot of discussion. So there's just not a super clear answer here imo.
 
But I'd be willing to trust a third party admin, say Nate or Bongo, to call it unresolved and then open up a new thread with a more narrow scope or with specific rules of engagement (at least to begin with - something like analyzing Web Theory ''in particular'' in one thread, not discussing any other issues, or perhaps discussing how we deal with Roland Rat-esque situations and daisy chaining more broadly, etc etc) if you are. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:20, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 
:That's fair enough, no worries. And I did have some idea as to what you've been so busy with, given the shiny new site and all. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:38, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== User report. ==
Hello there. I suspect that user [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User:TheSuperMarioBros2023 TheSuperMarioBros2023] is a sockpuppet account of Hulksmashtheworld/Theincrediblehulk2003/The Worldbreaker Hulk/Hulkbreaktheworld.
That's all for now. --[[User:AzureKesil|AzureKesil]] [[User talk:AzureKesil|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:46, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== RE: Missing thread ==
Ahh, I see. So the intention is simply transfer it to the Biography sub page, then just trim it down to roughly 3 sentences. In that case, it sounds relatively simple - it's less a complete rewrite or the article and simply just trimming it down a ton, with the original kept as a first draft to draw upon. Thank you for the addition! [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue">  </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 11:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 
== Re:Templates and adaptions ==
 
I respectfully disagree. The "villain templates" are just for readers to get a quick look at which stories to look into to see where their favourite antagonists show up, hence we had that whole "when is a Dalek story a Dalek story and not just a story with the Daleks" debate a few years back. It's why the complete list of appearances is tagged on the bottom for a more deep dive into it.
 
What confuses me here is why there are now two editors adding ''The Giggle'' to the Toymaker's media box and not his first novelised story ''The Celestial Toymaker''. And that's not even going into the bigger picture of then adding all adaptations to the other templates for consistency. Where would they go then? Would they get their own "Novelisations" group or be lumped in "Prose stories"? If the latter, how will we tell adapoted stories from original prose adventures? If the former, it will repentant because it's just repeating the TV stories in potentially anachronistic order.
 
Food for thought,
[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 
: I meant the novelisations would be anachronistic in comparison to the their television originals, since the books were released at their own pace. For example, the Cybermen first appeared in novel form in the novelisation of ''The Moonbase'', their second television serial. [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:45, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 
That is what I am trying to say. I'm just also noting that new editors unaware of the feature will most likely put them in episode order as opposed to release order, or reorganise them thinking they've been incorrectly placed due to being in the dark about the release order of the novelisations. It's just something to put into consideration if novelisations are to get their own group on character story templates. 14:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 
== Pxrn uploads/vandalism ==
 
Looks like someone's bored and uploading inappropriate images [[:File:Peri's Grandaughter.jpg|here]]. — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Send a space-time telegraph">@</span>]] 20:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 
== Master edits reply ==
 
Salutations. I wish to reply to you message on my talk page concerning my... "redrafts" of the Master pages, and hopefully clear up some confusion that seems to have taken place. Starting with the fact that I never intended my edits to come across as a redrafting of the articles. I started out updating them with some undocumented information, which I had intended to do when they were first individualised but never found the time before, and then took a closer look beforehand to see if there were anything else that needed editing.
 
Now, this cite source removal you mention. If you are referring to story links, you have me at a loss, since I actually went to great effort to avoid pasting over them when I was transferring updates from my Sandbox. But, if you are talking about the hyperlinks to the Master pages, like Delgado for {{Delgado}}, I think there's been a misunderstanding on the intention. As I am sure you remember, we used to use those hyperlinks when Time Lord incarnations were on a single page to link the appropriate incarnation to the source. I even remember inventing some of them myself for this reason for [[the Rani]] and [[the Monk]]. Since incarnations now have their own page, I was simply cutting out the middle man when I could and just linking to the page the traditional way, like with the [[Tremas Master]] for example.
 
As for the this accusation, for lack of a better word, of removing information and my edits being "thoroughly out of order" and "wthout any clear justification", I'm afraid I must take umbrage with that. I'll tackle your comment from the [[Bruce Master]] about his bullet point on the "Echo" Master being moved to the [[Decayed Master]] first. Simply put, the "Echo" Master's bullet point was moved to the Decayed Master's page was because the ''information'' concerning the bullet point was ''on'' the Decayed Master's character profile, so it felt more appropriate to have the bullet point there for consistency.
 
Indeed, as I have said before, I too dislike when information is removed from an article, but sometimes bits have to be removed to avoid repetitiveness; why repeat the spirit of the same sentence when it can all be covered together in a paragraph?
 
As for your feedback mentioning some good being added that had to be reverted, in that you are correct, as many spelling and grammatical mistakes I fixed have been readded to the main article. For example, several "days to come" section are now covering the post-regenerations, again for lack of a proper term, instead of hints to the future heard from the past, or have been removed all together, and paragraphs are now starting behind images instead of underneath. As well as several valid updates to their psychological profiles, and the puzzling inclusion to the ''The Timeless Child'' citation on "References" to the source of the clips the Masters hail from, and the equally questionable removal of [[The Master's aliases]] from the character infobox. These reversions make me question why my edits were deemed "destructive", when, by all apparent accounts, they produced more positive updates than negative?
 
Now to clear up with I believe if the biggest misunderstand about this affair concerning my Sandboxes for the Master. I originally created them ''because'' the Master's incarnations were not individualised and comprised to a single page, which was hard to edit due to the sheer size, so I created the Sandbox pages to have a better editing space before moving the new information to the main page. Once the main page was separated into individual pages, the Sandboxes were no longer of any use, so I stopped editing them. I've only just now found the time to start transferring the information I never got round to adding to the main page over. I had actually thinking about putting some of the more redundant Sanboxes up for deletion once I had transferred the appropriate edits, only keeping the ones that delved into "head cannon", but I needed to sleep, so I stopped at the [[Saxon Master]] and planned to continue with [[Missy]] and the [[Spy Master]] before I started proposing deletions at a later date. So, as I hope I have explained, I do not intend to have my Sandboxes replace the main pages. I was just using them because they were easier to edit at the time.
 
For a final note, I'd like to tackle how you called my edits "unjustified". But, "unjustified" in what way? Do I have to write an explanation for every edits I make? Does that not go against good faith editing and my rights as a user to edit articles if I feel they need updating, and then justifying my actions when I revert an edit or restore my reverted contributions? What I'm trying to say is that I'd like more constructive feedback on this topic.
 
I hope you found this reply enlightening and satisfactory,
Sincerely,
[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:22, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 
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With the image files, it's not really a policy. Images are just generally slotted between paragraphs. But, for some reason, editors are adding them to the beginning of the paragraphs, making it hard to tell when the image ends and the sentences begin.
 
I'm afraid I must disagree with your assertion that "Aliases of the Master" only applies to incarnations with multiple aliases. [[User:Epsilon the Eternal]] added [[Aliases of the Doctor]] to the [[Fifteenth Doctor]] to cover one nickname, and I believe the Masters' pages should follow a similar principle, if for no other reason than preparation for aliases future works will give them.
 
Truth be told, I've forgotten where "Backstory" came from. I think I just misread the "Origin" subheading on [[the Lumiat]] without noticing.
 
Am I right in understanding that the main problem with my edits is that I didn't fill in the edit description? If so I must apologies for this. You see, I have a communicational disability that can make getting my points across clear, so I usually only fill in the description box when it's completely necessary. The rest of the time, I just assume readers will see what my edits are and come to same conclusion I had for making them. I hope that helps you understand my actions regarding leaving them blank.
 
Sincerely,
[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 
:: I have some confusion on this biography reorganisation point I would like to cover before I start penning my full reply. Am I wrong in that you recently reorganised [[the Toymaker]]'s timelined biography without a talkpage debate or even an explanation in the edit description box? It's just really confusing for me at the moment to read one while another is apparently being practised. [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:53, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 
== QA ==
 
Honestly this looks so bad I think it might merit going to Czech and asking him to talk to the team involved before this is UCP 2.0. The ''mandatory 3 answers per page'' is, frankly, surreal.
 
As far as email goes, still the same hangups. At least in part because my email accounts involve my actual name and creating new ones is such a hassle these days. (Why do you need my phone # for verification? I don't want you to have that.) In absolutely, entirely, completely unrelated news, were you aware that a friend of mine and DAVIS's did a recent review on Alien Bodies on yt? Completely unrelated of course. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:29, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
:Well, it's a very isolated place with very few prying eyes and everything is, importantly, deletable.
 
:It's just a hangup for me. Past trauma. Maybe in a year or three. We can hope. Nothing personal, I promise, and I am working on it with a therapist. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:01, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
::I truly don't believe having an account there would be psychologically healthy for me. Addictive personalities run in my family and I've had bad experiences with social media usage in the past. While TBCotW was ongoing I noticed some bad behavior on my part ''without'' having an account and merely reading what others wrote. Only being able to interact as a guest places a rather large buffer there. Just. I'm fine finding out when everyone else does. I just wanted to make sure it was on people's radar as the problem I think it is. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
:::(Ugh. Gah. I'll think about it. I do have a twitch, under a slightly different username, if you've one. I don't use whispers much on there, but given I technically already have it, you know.)
 
:::That's roughly my thoughts on the subject as well, but I brought up similar objections on their last blogpost about it and they just brushed them aside, saying that individual questions could be deleted so there'd be no problem. I think it's a UCP problem all over again, they're starting with small wikis and scaling up, so haven't thought about the unique problems that large wikis present. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
:::: 'This user has turned on "Block Whispers from Strangers" in their privacy settings and must start a conversation with you first.' [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 
== Vandalism ==
 
Didn't take long for a vandal to come along. User [[172.70.90.79]] is posting inappropriate vandalism on the Thirteenth Doctor and other pages. Same goes for [[172.71.134.112]]. [[User:FractalDoctor|FractalDoctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 
: Nice of them to allow the testing of the block feature. I guess it was sadly to be expected that we'd get some vandals since the new URL has been widely promoted on social media (and one platform in particular). Sigh. Thanks for the blocks though. You admins are great :) [[User:FractalDoctor|FractalDoctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:46, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 
== Block bug? ==
 
Morning Scrooge. I woke up earlier to find I was seemingly blocked until August 2024 for "vandalism" - however I have been editing both versions of the Wiki for years now and I'm not sure what happened? I have since refreshed a few times and now I am able to edit pages again. Just flagging it up - is it a bug? (Also, I did notice that when I was blocked it was impossible to get in touch with an admin on site, as it prevented me from adding to / editing Talk pages too. Is there a workaround for such cases?) Hopefully it was a weird glitch in the Matrix! — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Talk">•</span>]] 09:46, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 
== Twitch ==
 
Oh that's a bother. From googling it seems like this is something they toggle from time to time. And yeah, I saw OS12 migrated over after I asked that. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
:Hey, about the thing we discussed earlier, what's your math background? I'll start with a rough outline based on that and figure out how I'll get it to you. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:37, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 
== Block ==
 
Hi. I've just found I've seemingly been blocked until 26 August. The notice gives the reason of vandalism and states the block started 26 Feb (which I know is incorrect as I was editing earlier today). Guessing it's some kind of bug. I've noticed [[User:FractalDoctor]] posted something on your talk page recently and it looks to be a similar issue. I'll keep refreshing as they did and see if that solves it. Thanks. [[User:66 Seconds|66 Seconds]] [[User talk:66 Seconds|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:55, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:I had this on my first day here, then again the other day. A few refreshes resolved it. I also flagged it up here: https://tardis.wiki/wiki/Forum:General_Discussion_of_the_Fork#Bugs/fixes/etc. × [[User:Fractal|Fractal]] [[User talk:Fractal|<span title="Talk">•</span>]] 21:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
:: What's especially odd is that, looking at [[Special:BlockList]], no one was blocked on that date, so it's not even that you're getting assigned someone else's block.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 21:14, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
 
== Re:SB ==
 
No, that's what everyone thought at first! But then in the airlock scene we went '''''entirely''''' the other way. That the episode seems ''nominally'' pro choice, but the underlying ethos it's asking us to adopt is simply pro life + pro welfare. (Treating the bogeyman as identical to the others, saying you save them all, etc etc.) Again, don't think this was intentional. I think it was Davies using iconography without a ton of care, being sloppy, and getting this result. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:39, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
:I simply disagree, if you're going to invoke that analogy, and then compare the villain to the harmless, helpless, babies in this way, and ''use this as justification for saving them'', I think that's going to inevitably stir up the metaphor again. Perhaps, however, this is influenced by the fact that when the parthenogenesis machine did the analysis for the composition on the bogey monster our immediate guess was unfinished, uncompleted babies rather than snot. (Frankly I didn't think RtD would be so juvenile on the opener. Ah, to be so optimistic as myself only 4 days ago.) So that might have colored how we read the airlock scene. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 
== Did you? ==
 
Did you really do that just to get back at him for saying we were all coping? (I already made him read the [[The Cosmology of the Spiral Politic (feature)]] article, he's just being stubborn.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:34, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:Well that certainly answers my question, but I was thinking of [[T-Time]], in light of the discussion this past week with SB Audio and the nature of Time Lords/the Doctor. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 
== FP forum ==
 
Just refreshed it after the new episode for, uh, obvious reasons. If you have admin perms you might want to check in, someone posted some spam in the last day. Cheers. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:36, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 
== Topical Pages ==
 
Might it be worth adding Sutekh to the list of topical pages? <font face="Maven Pro" color="#000000"><b>— [[User:Fractal|Fractal]] [[User talk:Fractal|<span title="Talk">•</span>]]</b></font> 13:08, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 
== IP user removing delete tags ==
 
So the IP user who's been doing all the colour/clothing/pattern edits lately I've noticed has been removing {{tlx|merge}} and {{tlx|delete}} instances on a few pages ([[Baldric]] and [[Celadon (colour)]] being the latest examples I've noticed). I'm not sure if there's much that can be done but I thought it should be brought to an admin's attention. - [[User:CodeAndGin|<span style="color:green" title="CodeAndGin">CodeAndGin</span>]] | [[User_talk:CodeAndGin|<span title="Talk to me">🗨</span>]] |  19:31, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 
== Passing on a recommendation ==
 
Ah. So, I came across a book that's currently on sale on Amazon, rather massively so. Since it seems to be relatively well written on a topic we've discussed before, and is a history written in a way I thought you might appreciate, I figured I'd pass it along. Even if it is, well, [https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Dissidents-Rebuilding-Foundations-Mechanics/dp/3662446618?ref=dlx_deals_dg_dcl_3662446618_dt_sl14_1f Amazon]. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:55, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== IP editor removing deletion tags and reverting edits ==
 
Hello, Scrooge. I think admin attention is needed with regard to the IP user's 2A00:23C7:AE85:3A01:B548:8648:AF80:33B0 edits.
 
They have been repeatedly reverting the removal of categories for "human war criminals" and "human war heroes" from several articles. Other editors and I had been removing them as in most of these cases there are no sources referring to them as such, and the IP editor's edit summaries only seem to be opinion based. There was a discussion on this on at [[Category talk:Human war criminals]], as a lot of the articles added appeared to be [[T:NO RW]] violations. They have also continually removed the deletion tags from "human war heroes" and "war heroes", two categories which they created. I have reverted their edits twice and have attempted to direct them to talk pages, but they have ignored this. Unfortunately, this isn't the first time they've done this. [[User:BlueSupergiant|BlueSupergiant]] [[User talk:BlueSupergiant|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 
:They're back again, as 2A00:23C7:AE85:3A01:F8C3:883:E4A8:3972 this time, doing the same sort of overcat-ing and removal of delete tags. I am wholly convinced they are the same editor as from yesterday, and from my post a couple weeks ago (also the IP always has the same 4 numbers at the start: "2A00:23C7:AE85:3A01", which when taking their editing habits and writing style into account makes me ''fairly'' sure it's the same user). - [[User:CodeAndGin|<span style="color:green" title="CodeAndGin">CodeAndGin</span>]] | [[User_talk:CodeAndGin|<span title="Talk to me">🗨</span>]] |  01:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 
::"2A00:23C7:AE85:3A01:1BA:2728:183E:9D51" this time (at least the most recent one; there have been 3 different IPs with the same beginning numbers and editing patterns today; I don't believe they're switching IPs to circumvent the blocks, just that they have a dynamic one, which unfortunately makes tracking their edits a Sisyphean task) - [[User:CodeAndGin|<span style="color:green" title="CodeAndGin">CodeAndGin</span>]] | [[User_talk:CodeAndGin|<span title="Talk to me">🗨</span>]] |  12:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== Re: Notes ==
 
Oh! Well, in that case, my bad. @Tsumioni made me realise we have a large inconsistency, as 90% of pages still have "Story notes". Thanks for clearing that up. I've also left a note on @Tsumioni's talk page. <font face="Maven Pro" color="#000000">— [[User:Fractal|Fractal]] [[User talk:Fractal|<span title="Talk">•</span>]]</font> 00:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
 
== Talking dog ==
 
Sorry, my mistake! I'm usually the one leaving messages on these pages so I usually do check. And I'm generally very thorough with doing the mergers as they're a tricky / tedious thing to do, and it's often in the back of my mind that messing up these things are hard to undo. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:02, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
 
== Re:Quantum ==
 
Look, I get it. Rationally I know this. But when people start saying stuff like
:the most provocative claims quantum physics makes is that observed objects are affected by that observation [...] importantly, it took not a scientist, but a historian, to realise the implication of that statement. Michel Foucault, a French historian, realised that it if the world was shaped by us, then we could change the world by changing how we thought
it just hits far too close to home to very real mistakes made by academics in the real world. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
:(FYI, since I know you're a tumblr user, you might appreciate [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2261286307 this] VOD, since wordpress owns tumblr. Somewhat relevant. Also open source/trademark stuff.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:49, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
 
== Categories being wrongly added/deleted ==
 
Hi Scrooge, there's an IP user adding "war criminal" to pages which don't warrant it, and I believe they have been told to not do this previously. Might it be worth a forum topic to discuss only allowing logged in users to add categories, so this doesn't get abused? <font face="Maven Pro" color="#000000">— [[User:Fractal|Fractal]] [[User talk:Fractal|<span title="Talk">•</span>]]</font> 14:25, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
 
== Uncategorised Templates ==
 
Hi Scrooge,
 
Would you be able to add a category to each of the templates currently on [[Special:UncategorizedTemplates]] using <noinclude>, as they're all locked for editing by admins only.
 
Thanks, {{User:Gingerfool/Sig}} 22:22, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
 
: Thanks for cleaning it all up :) {{User:Gingerfool/Sig}} 13:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
 
== 2023 ==
 
Hi, I'm currently in the middle of trying to update the release date pages so the year and day pages match up. I noticed you reverted several of my edits to [[2023 (releases)]], and I'm curious as to why. [[User:SilverSunbird|SilverSunbird]] [[User talk:SilverSunbird|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
: No problem, thanks for clearing that up. [[User:SilverSunbird|SilverSunbird]] [[User talk:SilverSunbird|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
 
== A wrongly set up section redirect within ns:4 ==
 
Hello. Your recent redirect move la, [[Tardis:TARDIS]] links not to the section on [[Tardis:Character names]] entitled [[Tardis:Character names#The TARDIS|#''The'' TARDIS]], but just to [[Tardis:Character names#TARDIS|#TARDIS]], which doesn't exist… There's not really an obvious choice of talk page to raise that issue on, so I'm just asking you directly. Thanks. {{unsigned|JSmith5504}}
 
: As I happened to see this, I corrected it quickly. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|☎]] 15:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
 
== NOTCOVERED ==
Re [https://tardis.wiki/w/index.php?title=Auteur_and_the_Homeworld_(poem)&curid=321516&diff=3861309&oldid=3861308 your edit] to [[Auteur and the Homeworld (poem)]], could you point out where this has been established? I don't recall the phasing out of [[NOTCOVERED]], only changing from [[NC]] to that. And certainly if there hasn't been a discussion over it [[T:BOUND]] would support its continued usage? {{User:Aquanafrahudy/Sig}} 14:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
 
: Ah, I had thought current practise pointed in the opposite direction for continuity sections too, but it seems I was mistaken. {{User:Aquanafrahudy/Sig}} 14:47, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
 
== Unnecessary category redirects ==
 
Hi Scrooge, would you be able to delete [[:Category:4DA Series 9 audio story images]] and [[:Category:The Fourth Doctor Adventures Series 9 audio anthology images]], as they are both unused and unnecessary; only existing because of mistakes whilst moving categories. The source code seems to be locked for them both though, so I can't put a delete tag there myself.
 
Ta, {{User:Gingerfool/Sig}} 13:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
 
:Ah right, sounds fine. Just wanted to make you aware of it ˙ᵕ˙ {{User:Gingerfool/Sig}} 14:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
 
== Colour Locking ==
 
Hi Scrooge,
 
Given the ongoing drama with an IP User(s) at [[Green]], could it be worth locking all colour pages to registered users only, to prevent the ongoing edit wars with IP users that are trying to break [[Tardis:Colour spectrum policy]] with their own conjecture?
 
{{User:Gingerfool/Sig}} 15:28, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
 
== Re:Muppets ==
 
That comment was more about the DWU-ness of it all. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:55, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
 
== Re: Coleman likeness ==
 
I'll diplomatically say that the likeness isn't striking. [[User:Jack|Jack]] [[User talk:Jack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
 
== Template:Jennies ==
 
Thanks for your input on creating the Template:Jennies navbox. Some of the unnamed pages are not necessarily concrete. I can update them when I get round to making them. One final question, is there anyone who can help the ''Star Cops Wiki'' with their navboxes? I just can't get them to work. I don't understand what the problem is and I'm truly not clever enough to make it work - definitely not clever enough to fiddle with CSS.
 
Let me know if anyone can help out over at the ''[https://starcops.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Cops_Wiki Star Cops Wiki]''. I have tried following the lessons over at the Fandom official help articles and they just don't make sense to me. If not, I understand.
 
Matthew / [[User:Thefartydoctor|Thefartydoctor]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks again for all your help, I've dropped them a message. [[User:Thefartydoctor|Thefartydoctor]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

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Re: Re: Apology

You'll get no more clarity from me. I ignored you for a reason because you, like always, were going round in circles to get the final word. You are an admin, act like it. DrWHOCorrieFan 20:24, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

btw

You might want to protect Doctor Who (just because that page probably should be protected) and block the vandal. Najawin 14:06, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Admin help

Can I get an admin's eyes on Forum:TV Comic & other periodical issues? I just feel like I've been attacked in a very inappropriate way. OS25🤙☎️ 05:37, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

The Encyclopedia

An example.

Coffa: One of Jabe’s associates from the Forest of Cheem aboard Platform One. He was distressed to hear of Jabe’s death from the Doctor. (1 .2) (Played by PAUL CASEY)

MrThermomanPreacher 21:11, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Dirk Gently

Hi Scrooge, You said at Talk:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (series) that you were going to make a thread on Dirk Gently. Do you mind if I make it, as I have a vague idea of how to do it, or do you want to do it? Aquanafrahudy 📢 13:06, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Okay. Aquanafrahudy 📢 13:17, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Popping in to ask

How's User:Najawin/Sandbox 9's sections (in terms of subsections + pictures? - best to scroll down a bit for best effect) this time? Najawin 01:59, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Alright, so whenever you think that should go live. (Obviously others can edit whenever they wish. Changes are still desired, especially since there's no S13 summary.) Najawin 04:16, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Could you push them live when you have the time? Cheers. Najawin 18:26, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Companions of the 13th Doctor template action request.

As the Template for the Companions of the 13th Doctor is Locked (for good reasons), and I have suggested adding Different (Canaries)to the template but no one has replied to this (also understandable most people can be very busy). So I am making my pitch to you because on the talk page you have been the only active admin. at the end of The Paradox Moon (short story)Siblijg Different now going by Mae sets of into the universe travelling with the 13th Doctor. May I thus suggest you ad Different to said template, thank you. Anastasia Cousins 17:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Anastasia Cousins 16:45, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Re: Life on Magrs stuff

Yeah, think you're probably right about Autumnal cat drawings; for a start, I hadn't realised about the fact that it's a different fictionalised version of Bernard Socks, and the Manhattan map shouldn't have been created in the first place. Not sure I agree with you about the Iris Wildthyme in the Post, but I'm iffy on that one. The one written in the style of Story of Fester Cat we should probably keep, and I was iffy about the Rue Broca one, but I think that might pass. What's your opinion on the poems? Aquanafrahudy 📢 20:40, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

But if you read The Story of Fester Cat [+]Loading...["The Story of Fester Cat (novel)"], Fester is quite definitely a defined, rounded character. And the same character pops up in A Year Since and arguably in Fester Cat's poem. And surely that tangible character is copyrightable. (Also, Party Like it's 1979 [+]Loading...["Party Like it's 1979 (short story)"] certainly seems to suggest that certain fictional versions of characters reappearing are enough to satisfy rule 2) (can't comment on Bernard Socks, as I haven't read Welcome Home) Aquanafrahudy 📢 20:57, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Well, it has Fester speaking from a posthumous position, which he is able to in Story of Fester Cat, and it also more or less follows on from the end of Story of Fester Cat I think (but I'm not sure because a) I'm only halfway through the book and b) the book isn't linear). Aquanafrahudy 📢 21:06, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Come to think of it, do you think a dead anthropomorphic Fester Cat would be copyrightable? Aquanafrahudy 📢 21:12, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

The Curator returns

Hey. Finally back again. More stories for you, of course. Massive things. But first: Discord.

I've sent a friend request from a new account (Phoenix). We'll catch up there as soon as we're both online at the same time. (Internet access is still very much on the wibbly side.)

Mind adding me back to the channel, as well? Love from the Island.
×   SOTO contribs ×°//]   💬| {/-//:   20:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Moving N-Space to "Primary universe"

I was reading a wiki page here a few days ago, and saw it refer to what has been typically called N-Space as a default term for the universe the Doctor Who franchise is set within as the "Primary universe", and I though that would be a good name that would put the "N-Space naming controversy" to rest. Unfortunately, I've forgotten in what story it was referred to as such, and can't citate the reference. I wanted to ask if you thought "Primary universe" would also make a good difference, and if you might know how to find the source? BananaClownMan 10:07, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Truth be told, I wish we could call it "The Doctor's universe" too, but, thanks to one Christopher Chibnall, to call it that would no longer be accurate, since he went out of his way to make it not the Doctor's universe, but their adopted one. I wonder why we can't just title the page "The Universe", like how Luna is titled the Moon or Sol is titled the Sun?BananaClownMan 17:38, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

I get what your going with, but I'm afraid I'm too literal minded to accept it. Oh, and sorry about the galleries width. I didn't know it was a rule, I just thought it was picked at random. BananaClownMan 09:26, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Re: And Today, You series

Okay, thanks. Aquanafrahudy 📢 🖊️ 12:45, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, didn't notice that. Aquanafrahudy 📢 🖊️ 06:53, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

T:POINT

Just out of interest, would a NuWho exclusion debate on my part be against T:POINT? Aquanafrahudy 📢 🖊️ 14:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I mean, personally, I interpreted those statements literally, and the point would have been that ordinary rule 4 apparently invalidates what most people are interested in us about. Probably still T:POINT violation, though. Aquanafrahudy 📢 🖊️ 14:35, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Citesource problem

I feel now is a good time to bring up the problem with the citesource template, if it is indeed preventing story titles from italicising just because they are untitled, which violates a policy I can't remember on how all story names' need to be italicised. Furthur more, is there anything that came be done with hyperlinks such as, (COMIC: Endgame (part four)), for example. The brackets within brackets just doesn't jive well. I remember talking about this grievance in a forum, but the forum has not been updates for a while now. BananaClownMan 09:30, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry

I figured since some sources are mentioned multiple times, we only need to specify the medium once. But I suppose you're right that context is necessary. Please accept my sincere apology. BastianBalthazarBux 15:26, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Definite article

Hi, Scrooge. I was just wondering what the current policy is on using the definite article in page names.

Specifically, I'm wondering if the likes of White Guardian and Black Guardian need to be moved to The White Guardian and The Black Guardian to comply with current policy and when pages for non-individuals need the definite article. For instance, why does The Dragon Scriptures have it when we don't have The Time Vortex or The Scrolls of Gallifrey? Jack "BtR" Saxon 21:50, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Okie doke, thanks for that. I haven't been keeping my eye on the forums and just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something. Jack "BtR" Saxon 22:51, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Non-valid Continuity sections, categories, and prefixes

Good evening.

I was hoping to find some clarity regarding why continuity sections were being remade from an out-of-universe perspective, when they are reference in-universe events. I had contacted the main advocate of the edits, User:Epsilon the Eternal, and they pointed me in your direction by supplying me with this quote from Forum:Non-valid Continuity sections, categories, and prefixes;

Going forward, an out-of-universe perspective should be favoured in all continuity sections if possible. This is a big ask, and although it's an ideal to trend towards I will not demand that we pull out all stops making valid stories' sections conform to this. However, given that we're going to be creating Continuity sections when none existed, I can and will ask that all continuity sections on invalid pages, and "continuity to non-valid sources" sections on valid or invalid pages, be written from an out-of-universe perspective. I think that ought to solve Czech's issue, to whatever extent it may have otherwise been a concern.@Scrooge MacDuck, Forum:Non-valid Continuity sections, categories, and prefixes

Readying this, I am given the impression that only stories marked as in-valid are to have out-of-universe written summaries, and that valid stories are to retain an in-universe summery. Am I correct in that assumption?

Thank you for your time, Sincerely, BananaClownMan 20:04, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Recent edits

I'm coming to you directly to prevent any unneeded unpleasantness from happening, like you thinking I'm a vandal and blocking me over an honest misunderstanding.

I promise you I am not removing information, except the occasional titbits that are either incorrect or unrelated the the article. At worse, I'm just rewording some sentences to get more direct to the point and "trimming the fat", to coin a phrase, to avoid repetition. My main goal is to update the articles now that I have full access to the source material as part of my research into the Fourteenth Doctor's character in preparation for upcoming 2023 specials. Believe me, I dislike it when users delete information, too.

I hope to settles any trouble that has been caused. Sincrely, BananaClownMan 22:40, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh the removal of Whotopia: The Ultimate Guide to the Whoniverse was no accident, for two reasons. 1) It says "appears" and "imply", which means it is speculative and speculation has always been taboo on this wiki. 2) It dabbles in timelines, which have long been relegated to theory forums unless absolutely needed, in conjunction with the taboo against speculation. These points, plus its evident irrelevance to the short story itself, are why I took the initiative and removed it. BananaClownMan 00:18, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Editors shouldn't have to explain every edit they make, otherwise the wiki wouldn't feel like a safe place for contribution. I'll have been editing for 10 years next June, and we've done fine with some good faith and talking it out if there's a disagreement. BananaClownMan 00:26, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Would it be possible to get a link to a list of these policies? Because everyone's been coming out the woodworks lately throwing words like T:NPOV, BOUND and "by policy" at me, and I have no idea what they're talking about half the time. I'm just trying to edit like I always have, and seems I'm out of the loop on certain updates. BananaClownMan 00:36, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Forum:Clarifying in-universe deadnaming policy in response to Rose Noble

Hello. I am sorry for bothering you about this but I would like you to take a look at Forum:Clarifying in-universe deadnaming policy in response to Rose Noble as I feel that anonymous user 51.191.137.161 is skirting a bit to close to transphobia. (I am not saying they are but as a trans person I feel they are on the very edge of it) I would like you to at least step in and remained everyone to stay civil and polite. But due to the anonymous user having no prior contributions before this forum I feel that they really just arrived here specifically to add to this forum. Not to mention their constant accusations of that trans people are trying to make themselves the centre of the world which to me feels very very close to Transphobia and has made me rather uncomfortable. I added my views on the subject and soon after they immediately accused me of calling them cis and and said that is it foolish of me to think that trans people know more about being trans than cis people. I had not accused them of being cis. I was not even referring to anyone in particular. As well as arguing for real world people to have their deadnames on this wiki which I believe would be in breach of fandom policy. Now I will leave it up to you to decide what to do but please at the very least just step in and make sure everyone is playing nicely. and if I am in the wrong at any point in this please do inform. Anastasia Cousins 21:05, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Peri

Hi, Scrooge. I'm a little confused. Is there no limit to the length a story's coverage can be on a character's page anymore? Jack "BtR" Saxon 23:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

I extended it from three sentences to five before you reverted it. The biography as it is now doesn't actually integrate anything from other sources beyond two insights into Peri's thoughts and feelings from the novelisation. I don't really see the value in detailing absolutely everything she does in that one story and think the important things can easily be trimmed down by several hundred words.
Upon arriving on Thoros-Beta, Peri and the Doctor were attacked by the Raak and captured by Kiv's men, but they managed to escape with Yrcanos after Crozier attempted to interrogate him to learn what provoked the Raak. The Doctor began behaving oddly and betrayed his friends to Sil, leading Peri, Yrcanos and Dorf to stir up rebellion amongst the Thoros-Alphans until they were stunned by Frax and imprisoned.
Peri was chosen by Crozier to become the host for Kiv's brainwaves. Assisted by Matrona Kani, he experimented upon her, resulting in her mind being erased and Kiv taking control of her body. To prevent Crozier's discovery from making Kiv immortal and affecting evolution across the universe, the High Council used Yrcanos as an unwitting assassin to kill Kiv by destroying Peri's body with a CD phaser soon after the successful transfer. (TV: Mindwarp [+]Loading...["Mindwarp (TV story)"])
If that's not enough, I'm really going to have to go over everything I've written on her page, which I've limited to the key parts of her involvement in stories rather than complete walkthroughs. Jack "BtR" Saxon 23:27, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
In which case, I'll aim for that much. At its current length, it's a bit indigestible. Jack "BtR" Saxon 23:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

About spoilers

Just a double check. As it currently stands, I presume the policy on T:SPOIL ALLOW means spoilers are disallowed on any talk page outside of those limited examples right? Does it mean stuff in the Tardis talk: namespace, for instance? -- Tybort (talk page) 16:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Alright, but what I said before appears to also apply to the caveats in T:OFFICIAL INFO, too. -- Tybort (talk page) 17:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Bulgaria school murder

Hi, Scrooge. Got a familiar bit of spam at this page and its talk page. Jack "BtR" Saxon 13:52, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Cite source template clarification needed

Hello Scrooge. Hope all has been well. Congrats on being a staff by the way! Great to see you are still around ^_^ Was hoping you could help me clarify a matter.

Given Doctor Who was off air for about a year, I have come back to find there is this new “cite source” template used on TARDIS for citing stories as we have always done here with in-line citations and so forth. However, while editing, I have noticed there is inconsistency in which style is used among various editors and also within articles on the wiki. For example, in the same section “cite source” is used for one story but the next it is the classic “TV: Story” style.

I checked the policy pages but am struggling to find the new “cite source” one; the T:CITE one still commands the usage of the classic style. Therefore, I thought it best to ask you which one we are meant to be using or if we are indeed using all three variations but it depends on the circumstances (in-universe or out-universe, real world articles or character articles). Can you help provide some clarification?

I look forward to hearing your reply! Snivy The coolest Pokemon ever 22:16, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Ahhh, okay then! So I do use it and where I see someone is using the old style or where the old style is still on the article, I should convert it to the new “cite source” one in all cases (regardless of the article)? Snivy The coolest Pokemon ever 22:39, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
Great! The wider editing base is aware of this change yes? Some editors appear to keep reverting my changes regarding this style; edit warring risks occurring it seems if editors aren’t aware and I keep having to change them back to the “cite source” style - loads more work too. Snivy The coolest Pokemon ever 17:36, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Executive decisions

When you've the time, Talk:Disney+ (in-universe) and Talk:Wild Blue Yonder (TV story) have stalled out discussion (imo) and could use an admin to make final calls on their topics. Najawin 23:08, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Page deletion

If you've the time, From the Doctor to My Son Thomas is just fundamentally flawed and should be deleted. It's blatantly plagiarized from wikipedia. Najawin 20:17, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Also, if you (or any admin who's online and reading talk pages) could have a look at Isaac Newton when you've the chance. The original IP user who accused me of violating T:NPOV is back and is vandalizing (#6) the page after Nate's ruling, refusing to accept it or move to the talk page. Blocking them and/or locking the page might be needed. (I'm removing myself as it's probably bordering on T:NO WARS here, even if it's technically vandalism.) Najawin 00:29, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Re:R4bp

As far as that thread goes, I'm perfectly willing to call that thread unresolved and start over, perhaps with a more narrow scope, or with a more structured framework for how to proceed. It's been two months just about since the last bit of movement there, and I'd have to reread the whole thing if there was a new response anyhow.

I do think there was some interesting lines of thought that we were working on, but the thread just became so long that there were, what, four, five of us who were engaged at the end? And those who tapped out earlier on missed out on just large swathes of that discussion. It seems a bit unreasonable for, in effect, four or five users to be having a discussion that's this foundational and everyone else to be filibustered out. But at the same time the issues at play are complicated and do require a lot of discussion. So there's just not a super clear answer here imo.

But I'd be willing to trust a third party admin, say Nate or Bongo, to call it unresolved and then open up a new thread with a more narrow scope or with specific rules of engagement (at least to begin with - something like analyzing Web Theory in particular in one thread, not discussing any other issues, or perhaps discussing how we deal with Roland Rat-esque situations and daisy chaining more broadly, etc etc) if you are. Najawin 18:20, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

That's fair enough, no worries. And I did have some idea as to what you've been so busy with, given the shiny new site and all. Najawin 19:38, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

User report.

Hello there. I suspect that user TheSuperMarioBros2023 is a sockpuppet account of Hulksmashtheworld/Theincrediblehulk2003/The Worldbreaker Hulk/Hulkbreaktheworld. That's all for now. --AzureKesil 09:46, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

RE: Missing thread

Ahh, I see. So the intention is simply transfer it to the Biography sub page, then just trim it down to roughly 3 sentences. In that case, it sounds relatively simple - it's less a complete rewrite or the article and simply just trimming it down a ton, with the original kept as a first draft to draw upon. Thank you for the addition! Snivy The coolest Pokemon ever 11:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Re:Templates and adaptions

I respectfully disagree. The "villain templates" are just for readers to get a quick look at which stories to look into to see where their favourite antagonists show up, hence we had that whole "when is a Dalek story a Dalek story and not just a story with the Daleks" debate a few years back. It's why the complete list of appearances is tagged on the bottom for a more deep dive into it.

What confuses me here is why there are now two editors adding The Giggle to the Toymaker's media box and not his first novelised story The Celestial Toymaker. And that's not even going into the bigger picture of then adding all adaptations to the other templates for consistency. Where would they go then? Would they get their own "Novelisations" group or be lumped in "Prose stories"? If the latter, how will we tell adapoted stories from original prose adventures? If the former, it will repentant because it's just repeating the TV stories in potentially anachronistic order.

Food for thought, BananaClownMan 14:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

I meant the novelisations would be anachronistic in comparison to the their television originals, since the books were released at their own pace. For example, the Cybermen first appeared in novel form in the novelisation of The Moonbase, their second television serial. BananaClownMan 14:45, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

That is what I am trying to say. I'm just also noting that new editors unaware of the feature will most likely put them in episode order as opposed to release order, or reorganise them thinking they've been incorrectly placed due to being in the dark about the release order of the novelisations. It's just something to put into consideration if novelisations are to get their own group on character story templates. 14:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Pxrn uploads/vandalism

Looks like someone's bored and uploading inappropriate images here. — Fractal Doctor @ 20:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Master edits reply

Salutations. I wish to reply to you message on my talk page concerning my... "redrafts" of the Master pages, and hopefully clear up some confusion that seems to have taken place. Starting with the fact that I never intended my edits to come across as a redrafting of the articles. I started out updating them with some undocumented information, which I had intended to do when they were first individualised but never found the time before, and then took a closer look beforehand to see if there were anything else that needed editing.

Now, this cite source removal you mention. If you are referring to story links, you have me at a loss, since I actually went to great effort to avoid pasting over them when I was transferring updates from my Sandbox. But, if you are talking about the hyperlinks to the Master pages, like Delgado for the Master, I think there's been a misunderstanding on the intention. As I am sure you remember, we used to use those hyperlinks when Time Lord incarnations were on a single page to link the appropriate incarnation to the source. I even remember inventing some of them myself for this reason for the Rani and the Monk. Since incarnations now have their own page, I was simply cutting out the middle man when I could and just linking to the page the traditional way, like with the Tremas Master for example.

As for the this accusation, for lack of a better word, of removing information and my edits being "thoroughly out of order" and "wthout any clear justification", I'm afraid I must take umbrage with that. I'll tackle your comment from the Bruce Master about his bullet point on the "Echo" Master being moved to the Decayed Master first. Simply put, the "Echo" Master's bullet point was moved to the Decayed Master's page was because the information concerning the bullet point was on the Decayed Master's character profile, so it felt more appropriate to have the bullet point there for consistency.

Indeed, as I have said before, I too dislike when information is removed from an article, but sometimes bits have to be removed to avoid repetitiveness; why repeat the spirit of the same sentence when it can all be covered together in a paragraph?

As for your feedback mentioning some good being added that had to be reverted, in that you are correct, as many spelling and grammatical mistakes I fixed have been readded to the main article. For example, several "days to come" section are now covering the post-regenerations, again for lack of a proper term, instead of hints to the future heard from the past, or have been removed all together, and paragraphs are now starting behind images instead of underneath. As well as several valid updates to their psychological profiles, and the puzzling inclusion to the The Timeless Child citation on "References" to the source of the clips the Masters hail from, and the equally questionable removal of The Master's aliases from the character infobox. These reversions make me question why my edits were deemed "destructive", when, by all apparent accounts, they produced more positive updates than negative?

Now to clear up with I believe if the biggest misunderstand about this affair concerning my Sandboxes for the Master. I originally created them because the Master's incarnations were not individualised and comprised to a single page, which was hard to edit due to the sheer size, so I created the Sandbox pages to have a better editing space before moving the new information to the main page. Once the main page was separated into individual pages, the Sandboxes were no longer of any use, so I stopped editing them. I've only just now found the time to start transferring the information I never got round to adding to the main page over. I had actually thinking about putting some of the more redundant Sanboxes up for deletion once I had transferred the appropriate edits, only keeping the ones that delved into "head cannon", but I needed to sleep, so I stopped at the Saxon Master and planned to continue with Missy and the Spy Master before I started proposing deletions at a later date. So, as I hope I have explained, I do not intend to have my Sandboxes replace the main pages. I was just using them because they were easier to edit at the time.

For a final note, I'd like to tackle how you called my edits "unjustified". But, "unjustified" in what way? Do I have to write an explanation for every edits I make? Does that not go against good faith editing and my rights as a user to edit articles if I feel they need updating, and then justifying my actions when I revert an edit or restore my reverted contributions? What I'm trying to say is that I'd like more constructive feedback on this topic.

I hope you found this reply enlightening and satisfactory, Sincerely, BananaClownMan 19:22, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


With the image files, it's not really a policy. Images are just generally slotted between paragraphs. But, for some reason, editors are adding them to the beginning of the paragraphs, making it hard to tell when the image ends and the sentences begin.

I'm afraid I must disagree with your assertion that "Aliases of the Master" only applies to incarnations with multiple aliases. User:Epsilon the Eternal added Aliases of the Doctor to the Fifteenth Doctor to cover one nickname, and I believe the Masters' pages should follow a similar principle, if for no other reason than preparation for aliases future works will give them.

Truth be told, I've forgotten where "Backstory" came from. I think I just misread the "Origin" subheading on the Lumiat without noticing.

Am I right in understanding that the main problem with my edits is that I didn't fill in the edit description? If so I must apologies for this. You see, I have a communicational disability that can make getting my points across clear, so I usually only fill in the description box when it's completely necessary. The rest of the time, I just assume readers will see what my edits are and come to same conclusion I had for making them. I hope that helps you understand my actions regarding leaving them blank.

Sincerely, BananaClownMan 02:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

I have some confusion on this biography reorganisation point I would like to cover before I start penning my full reply. Am I wrong in that you recently reorganised the Toymaker's timelined biography without a talkpage debate or even an explanation in the edit description box? It's just really confusing for me at the moment to read one while another is apparently being practised. BananaClownMan 02:53, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

QA

Honestly this looks so bad I think it might merit going to Czech and asking him to talk to the team involved before this is UCP 2.0. The mandatory 3 answers per page is, frankly, surreal.

As far as email goes, still the same hangups. At least in part because my email accounts involve my actual name and creating new ones is such a hassle these days. (Why do you need my phone # for verification? I don't want you to have that.) In absolutely, entirely, completely unrelated news, were you aware that a friend of mine and DAVIS's did a recent review on Alien Bodies on yt? Completely unrelated of course. Najawin 21:29, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Well, it's a very isolated place with very few prying eyes and everything is, importantly, deletable.
It's just a hangup for me. Past trauma. Maybe in a year or three. We can hope. Nothing personal, I promise, and I am working on it with a therapist. Najawin 22:01, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
I truly don't believe having an account there would be psychologically healthy for me. Addictive personalities run in my family and I've had bad experiences with social media usage in the past. While TBCotW was ongoing I noticed some bad behavior on my part without having an account and merely reading what others wrote. Only being able to interact as a guest places a rather large buffer there. Just. I'm fine finding out when everyone else does. I just wanted to make sure it was on people's radar as the problem I think it is. Najawin 23:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
(Ugh. Gah. I'll think about it. I do have a twitch, under a slightly different username, if you've one. I don't use whispers much on there, but given I technically already have it, you know.)
That's roughly my thoughts on the subject as well, but I brought up similar objections on their last blogpost about it and they just brushed them aside, saying that individual questions could be deleted so there'd be no problem. I think it's a UCP problem all over again, they're starting with small wikis and scaling up, so haven't thought about the unique problems that large wikis present. Najawin 23:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
'This user has turned on "Block Whispers from Strangers" in their privacy settings and must start a conversation with you first.' Najawin 00:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism

Didn't take long for a vandal to come along. User 172.70.90.79 is posting inappropriate vandalism on the Thirteenth Doctor and other pages. Same goes for 172.71.134.112. FractalDoctor 00:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Nice of them to allow the testing of the block feature. I guess it was sadly to be expected that we'd get some vandals since the new URL has been widely promoted on social media (and one platform in particular). Sigh. Thanks for the blocks though. You admins are great :) FractalDoctor 00:46, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Block bug?

Morning Scrooge. I woke up earlier to find I was seemingly blocked until August 2024 for "vandalism" - however I have been editing both versions of the Wiki for years now and I'm not sure what happened? I have since refreshed a few times and now I am able to edit pages again. Just flagging it up - is it a bug? (Also, I did notice that when I was blocked it was impossible to get in touch with an admin on site, as it prevented me from adding to / editing Talk pages too. Is there a workaround for such cases?) Hopefully it was a weird glitch in the Matrix! — Fractal Doctor 09:46, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Twitch

Oh that's a bother. From googling it seems like this is something they toggle from time to time. And yeah, I saw OS12 migrated over after I asked that. Najawin 01:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Hey, about the thing we discussed earlier, what's your math background? I'll start with a rough outline based on that and figure out how I'll get it to you. Najawin 22:37, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Block

Hi. I've just found I've seemingly been blocked until 26 August. The notice gives the reason of vandalism and states the block started 26 Feb (which I know is incorrect as I was editing earlier today). Guessing it's some kind of bug. I've noticed User:FractalDoctor posted something on your talk page recently and it looks to be a similar issue. I'll keep refreshing as they did and see if that solves it. Thanks. 66 Seconds 20:55, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

I had this on my first day here, then again the other day. A few refreshes resolved it. I also flagged it up here: https://tardis.wiki/wiki/Forum:General_Discussion_of_the_Fork#Bugs/fixes/etc. × Fractal 21:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
What's especially odd is that, looking at Special:BlockList, no one was blocked on that date, so it's not even that you're getting assigned someone else's block.
×   SOTO contribs ×°//]   💬| {/-//:   21:14, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Re:SB

No, that's what everyone thought at first! But then in the airlock scene we went entirely the other way. That the episode seems nominally pro choice, but the underlying ethos it's asking us to adopt is simply pro life + pro welfare. (Treating the bogeyman as identical to the others, saying you save them all, etc etc.) Again, don't think this was intentional. I think it was Davies using iconography without a ton of care, being sloppy, and getting this result. Najawin 00:39, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

I simply disagree, if you're going to invoke that analogy, and then compare the villain to the harmless, helpless, babies in this way, and use this as justification for saving them, I think that's going to inevitably stir up the metaphor again. Perhaps, however, this is influenced by the fact that when the parthenogenesis machine did the analysis for the composition on the bogey monster our immediate guess was unfinished, uncompleted babies rather than snot. (Frankly I didn't think RtD would be so juvenile on the opener. Ah, to be so optimistic as myself only 4 days ago.) So that might have colored how we read the airlock scene. Najawin 01:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Did you?

Did you really do that just to get back at him for saying we were all coping? (I already made him read the The Cosmology of the Spiral Politic (feature) article, he's just being stubborn.) Najawin 03:34, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Well that certainly answers my question, but I was thinking of T-Time, in light of the discussion this past week with SB Audio and the nature of Time Lords/the Doctor. Najawin 03:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

FP forum

Just refreshed it after the new episode for, uh, obvious reasons. If you have admin perms you might want to check in, someone posted some spam in the last day. Cheers. Najawin 02:36, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Topical Pages

Might it be worth adding Sutekh to the list of topical pages? Fractal 13:08, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

IP user removing delete tags

So the IP user who's been doing all the colour/clothing/pattern edits lately I've noticed has been removing {{merge}} and {{delete}} instances on a few pages (Baldric and Celadon (colour) being the latest examples I've noticed). I'm not sure if there's much that can be done but I thought it should be brought to an admin's attention. - CodeAndGin | 🗨 | 19:31, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Passing on a recommendation

Ah. So, I came across a book that's currently on sale on Amazon, rather massively so. Since it seems to be relatively well written on a topic we've discussed before, and is a history written in a way I thought you might appreciate, I figured I'd pass it along. Even if it is, well, Amazon. Najawin 02:55, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

IP editor removing deletion tags and reverting edits

Hello, Scrooge. I think admin attention is needed with regard to the IP user's 2A00:23C7:AE85:3A01:B548:8648:AF80:33B0 edits.

They have been repeatedly reverting the removal of categories for "human war criminals" and "human war heroes" from several articles. Other editors and I had been removing them as in most of these cases there are no sources referring to them as such, and the IP editor's edit summaries only seem to be opinion based. There was a discussion on this on at Category talk:Human war criminals, as a lot of the articles added appeared to be T:NO RW violations. They have also continually removed the deletion tags from "human war heroes" and "war heroes", two categories which they created. I have reverted their edits twice and have attempted to direct them to talk pages, but they have ignored this. Unfortunately, this isn't the first time they've done this. BlueSupergiant 23:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

They're back again, as 2A00:23C7:AE85:3A01:F8C3:883:E4A8:3972 this time, doing the same sort of overcat-ing and removal of delete tags. I am wholly convinced they are the same editor as from yesterday, and from my post a couple weeks ago (also the IP always has the same 4 numbers at the start: "2A00:23C7:AE85:3A01", which when taking their editing habits and writing style into account makes me fairly sure it's the same user). - CodeAndGin | 🗨 | 01:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
"2A00:23C7:AE85:3A01:1BA:2728:183E:9D51" this time (at least the most recent one; there have been 3 different IPs with the same beginning numbers and editing patterns today; I don't believe they're switching IPs to circumvent the blocks, just that they have a dynamic one, which unfortunately makes tracking their edits a Sisyphean task) - CodeAndGin | 🗨 | 12:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Re: Notes

Oh! Well, in that case, my bad. @Tsumioni made me realise we have a large inconsistency, as 90% of pages still have "Story notes". Thanks for clearing that up. I've also left a note on @Tsumioni's talk page. Fractal 00:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Talking dog

Sorry, my mistake! I'm usually the one leaving messages on these pages so I usually do check. And I'm generally very thorough with doing the mergers as they're a tricky / tedious thing to do, and it's often in the back of my mind that messing up these things are hard to undo. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:02, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Re:Quantum

Look, I get it. Rationally I know this. But when people start saying stuff like

the most provocative claims quantum physics makes is that observed objects are affected by that observation [...] importantly, it took not a scientist, but a historian, to realise the implication of that statement. Michel Foucault, a French historian, realised that it if the world was shaped by us, then we could change the world by changing how we thought

it just hits far too close to home to very real mistakes made by academics in the real world. Najawin 18:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

(FYI, since I know you're a tumblr user, you might appreciate this VOD, since wordpress owns tumblr. Somewhat relevant. Also open source/trademark stuff.) Najawin 02:49, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Categories being wrongly added/deleted

Hi Scrooge, there's an IP user adding "war criminal" to pages which don't warrant it, and I believe they have been told to not do this previously. Might it be worth a forum topic to discuss only allowing logged in users to add categories, so this doesn't get abused? Fractal 14:25, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Uncategorised Templates

Hi Scrooge,

Would you be able to add a category to each of the templates currently on Special:UncategorizedTemplates using , as they're all locked for editing by admins only.

Thanks, SID'gingerfool'RAT - 🔎 |📂|📝 22:22, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning it all up :) SID'gingerfool'RAT - 🔎 |📂|📝 13:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

2023

Hi, I'm currently in the middle of trying to update the release date pages so the year and day pages match up. I noticed you reverted several of my edits to 2023 (releases), and I'm curious as to why. SilverSunbird 23:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for clearing that up. SilverSunbird 23:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

A wrongly set up section redirect within ns:4

Hello. Your recent redirect move la, Tardis:TARDIS links not to the section on Tardis:Character names entitled #The TARDIS, but just to #TARDIS, which doesn't exist… There's not really an obvious choice of talk page to raise that issue on, so I'm just asking you directly. Thanks. The preceding unsigned comment was added by JSmith5504 (talk • contribs) .

As I happened to see this, I corrected it quickly. Bongo50 15:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

NOTCOVERED

Re your edit to Auteur and the Homeworld (poem), could you point out where this has been established? I don't recall the phasing out of NOTCOVERED, only changing from NC to that. And certainly if there hasn't been a discussion over it T:BOUND would support its continued usage? Aquanafrahudy 📢 🖊️ 14:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I had thought current practise pointed in the opposite direction for continuity sections too, but it seems I was mistaken. Aquanafrahudy 📢 🖊️ 14:47, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Unnecessary category redirects

Hi Scrooge, would you be able to delete Category:4DA Series 9 audio story images and Category:The Fourth Doctor Adventures Series 9 audio anthology images, as they are both unused and unnecessary; only existing because of mistakes whilst moving categories. The source code seems to be locked for them both though, so I can't put a delete tag there myself.

Ta, SID'gingerfool'RAT - 🔎 |📂|📝 13:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Ah right, sounds fine. Just wanted to make you aware of it ˙ᵕ˙ SID'gingerfool'RAT - 🔎 |📂|📝 14:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Colour Locking

Hi Scrooge,

Given the ongoing drama with an IP User(s) at Green, could it be worth locking all colour pages to registered users only, to prevent the ongoing edit wars with IP users that are trying to break Tardis:Colour spectrum policy with their own conjecture?

SID'gingerfool'RAT - 🔎 |📂|📝 15:28, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Re:Muppets

That comment was more about the DWU-ness of it all. Najawin 00:55, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Re: Coleman likeness

I'll diplomatically say that the likeness isn't striking. Jack 13:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Jennies

Thanks for your input on creating the Template:Jennies navbox. Some of the unnamed pages are not necessarily concrete. I can update them when I get round to making them. One final question, is there anyone who can help the Star Cops Wiki with their navboxes? I just can't get them to work. I don't understand what the problem is and I'm truly not clever enough to make it work - definitely not clever enough to fiddle with CSS.

Let me know if anyone can help out over at the Star Cops Wiki. I have tried following the lessons over at the Fandom official help articles and they just don't make sense to me. If not, I understand.

Matthew / Thefartydoctor 17:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again for all your help, I've dropped them a message. Thefartydoctor 18:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)