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To save you the trouble, just call me '''SOTO'''.<br />Also, please sign your messages. Thanks.
To save you the trouble, just call me '''SOTO'''.<br />Also, please sign your messages. Thanks.


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== First Strax Field Report ==
== Temporary forums ==
So what's your rationale for starting an article about something that contains a spoiler, however mild, about the 50th anniversary? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 00:34: Fri 31 May 2013</span>
:The only time limit on addressing violations of [[T:SPOIL]] is the point when the story is released in full.  So if this were 24 November, you'd have a point.  As it's not, you don't.


:People ask all the time, "Why didn't you say something at the time?" The answer is extraordinarily simpleIt's a big wiki, there's a lot going on, and there's no way that any automated process could have possibly detected this kind of policy violation.  I had to simply happen across itWhich I did today. If someone went to an obscure page and rewrote it to contain plausible — but 100 percent false — information, it's quite possible that it wouldn't be found for months.  Elapsed time doesn't make the action "okay".
Heya! Hope your new year has started off well, too!  Mine has begun busily, and with a ton of inclement weatherSo I'm running behind this week, along with it being a holiday week.  So I'm not sure I'll reasonably be able to make this somewhat artificial deadline of the 24th to have the forums back in place. Would you mind giving me until Monday, 1 February? I'd rather avoid adding a second step to the forum restoration process if at all possibleThanks! {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 02:55: Thu 20 Jan 2022</span>
:Hey :) I ran into another coupla roadblocks last week, and spo I couldn't get back over here. If y'all could give me another coupla weeks, I'd be super appreciative. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 20:34: Tue 01 Feb 2022</span>


:This thing is an advertisement for a future story containing behind the scenes footage which mildly spoils the fiftieth anniversary story. And in the same way that trailers about future stories or interviews which contain info about future stories are not allowed, neither is this. The very location around which the report centres is a spoiler. So, it's going bye-bye, and I'm probably going to scrub all references to the name of thing, too. And I'll be locking down [[Strax Field Report]], too. This little series has actually been quite detrimental to those wanting to keep themselves away from all spoilers. I can think of at least two pieces of information it gave out about future stories: the name of episode 14 and a location in episode 15. Well no more. It's an advert, pure and simple, and it's not eroding the surprises of the fiftieth any further on this wiki. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:40: Fri 31 May 2013</span>
==Completely confused==
Hi! About those edits regarding Bessie (which I apologise for if it looked like vandalism, I just genuinely thought it was the case), I’m actually kinda confused - I don’t really remember any DWU TV stories that focus on fully sentient vehicles. I say TV stories since I’ve only really seen those, as they are usually more commercially available. Nor can I remember any other sentient DW vehicles as well, aside from the TARDIS. The only non-organic life forms I can think of with any sentience are the likes of the Autons, WOTAN, and K9. Could you direct me to any examples of sentient vehicles, as well as instances of vehicles narrating a DW story? Thanks! {{user:TARDIS9/Sig}}{{User:TARDIS9/TimeFormat}} 00:03: Tues 25 Jan 2022</span>


== David Melbourne page error ==
== Slothdoesthis ==


SOTO, I fixed that for you. <nowiki><ref name=Who-ology></> should've been <ref name="Who-ology" />.</nowiki> {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|13:23,1/6/2013}}
Hi the user Slothdoesthis is repeatedly creating the Baron page [[User:Valeyard12.5|Valeyard12.5]] [[User talk:Valeyard12.5|<span title="Talk to me"></span>]] 12:20, 6 February 2022 (UTC)


== Rhenborg  ==
== What does the “council” tag mean (w’ signature) ==


Thank you for cleaning the article up for me. Would it be ok to include the article in the websites category too, considering that the article is kind of about his website as well? or not
On your profile, next to the administrator tag, there’s a “council” tag. You’re the only user I’ve seen so far with it. What does it mean? (Sorry for forgetting to sign the last time I did this) [[User:GaganTopia|GaganTopia]] [[User talk:GaganTopia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:31, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


Thank you from brand new user [[User:Paul8McGann|Paul8McGann]] [[User talk:Paul8McGann|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:57, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
== Vandal ==


== Pipes in infoboes ==
Making you aware of this violator: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/UR_MOTHER_GAMING [[User:DJAitch|DJAitch]] [[User talk:DJAitch|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:47, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
As stated at [[Thread:133001]], please don't manually correct missing/additional pipes in infoboxes, as you recently did at [[Just War (novel)|Just War]].  I'm literally running the bot right now to correct all that. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 00:15: Tue 04 Jun 2013</span>


== Religion ==
== Fandom updates ==
I think you need stop and bring it to the forum whether we want to start going down the road of religious classification of individuals.  [[:Category:Leaders of the early Christian church]] is one thing, because that's actually a cat about an organisation.  Actually identifying people by their religion is getting into a sensitive territory. Yes, we do have some stories that deal with Catholic/Protestant conflicts, but how finely do we want to take it?  Does the fact that there's a wedding in a Christian church in ''Father's Day'' mean those people are Christians?  I think I'd be more comfortable if we kept the category away from the general area of belief and more towards people who were ''officially'' a part of a church (or the heads of church-dominated states).  I think [[:Category:Protestants]] could swiftly become a matter of great speculation, and thereby fall foul of [[T:CAT NAME]]. Don't forget, too, that a lot of people fought on the Catholic or Protestant side not because it was their actual religious preference, but because the style of government a particular leader represented was to their liking.  And, yanno, whatcha gonna call [[Henry VIII]], since he "converted" (to be super-generous to him) mid-life? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 16:24: Wed 05 Jun 2013</span>
:I'd still prefer this as a community discussion rather than notes on user pages.  It's fairly complicated and maybe others will have useful input. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 18:03: Wed 05 Jun 2013</span>


== Wikipedia ==
Hey there! I posted some Fandom updates [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User:Spongebob456/Fandom_updates_-_Women%27s_History_Month,_MediaWiki_1.37,_and_quizzes here], which includes details on an upcoming MediaWiki upgrade to the platform. If you have any questions/feedback/comments on it, please do message on my talk page! As normal, if you wanted to continue a thread left by another admin too that'd be great to keep things in one place. Thanks! :) --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 21:52, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
[[T:NOT WP]], [[T:EVIL TWIN]], and [[T:SPOIL ALLOW]] all combine to say that you shouldn't create a link to a spoiler, however mild, in the user talk namespace. Forget about the merits of your discussion—you shouldn't even have asked the question on my user talk page.  Please be careful in future that you don't ask questions which ''themselves'' contain or link to spoilers.


On the merits of the question, nothing is changed by what WP:DW are doing.  We're not going to be having a space that allows for spoilers for the 50th.  Surely you've by now seen the clear message at, amongst other places, [[MediaWiki:Community-corner]].  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:37: Thu 06 Jun 2013</span>
== Template:Wales crew update? ==
:I don't ''want'' to be shown it. I'm not sure why you're so insistent on having a page that's going to attract spoilers within the context of our "spoil the 50th anniversary and you'll be infinitely blocked" thing. But I'd urge you to please move on, rather than [[T:POINT|flogging dead horses]].


:There is ''no'' interpretation of [[T:SPOIL ALLOW]] that will give you what you seek here.  The specials are genuinely specials.  Given what we know now, it/they is/are like ''The Five Doctors''. It/they form their own production block and appear to be separately contracted from either series 7 or series 8.  Now, hey, maybe when we get the DWMSE review of series 8, we'll discover that actually it/they is/are a part of series 8.  But ''nothing'' suggests that right now.  At all. In the slightest. It's not a part of a series, so therefore there is no series page, so therefore there is no spoiler-allowed space.  That's why a temporary policy about the 50th anniversary was required, which is where there are several prominent messages saying "no spoilers anywhere about the 50th"
Sorry to bother you, but do you have any idea when the updates to the [[Template:Wales crew|"Wales crew" template]] might be completed? I know I've put in a lot of requests; apologies for cluttering up the talk page! As I mentioned before, I would love to learn how the template works so I could do the fiddly bits myself, although I completely understand if you'd rather just handle them centrally. [[User:Starkidsoph|Starkidsoph]] [[User talk:Starkidsoph|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:16, 14 March 2022 (UTC)


:Oh, and spoiling in chat isn't allowed either, yanno, as made very clear by [[MediaWiki:Chat-welcome-message|the chat welcome message]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 19:26: Thu 06 Jun 2013</span>
==Deletion request==
Hello, I accidentally created a misspelt category that needs promptly deleting, "Category:Individuals Fairies", that I've remade as "Category:Individual Fairies", meant for [[Jasmine Pierce]] to denote her species. I hope the new category is acceptable and I apologise for the mistake. Kind regards. [[User:RedWizard98|RedWizard98]] [[User talk:RedWizard98|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:20, 20 March 2022 (UTC)


::SOTO, seriously.  Flogging. Dead Horse. You are.  The policy on the 50th anniversary special(s) is very clear, and repeated in several places.  Nothing.  Anywhere.  Period. But I will make it ''even'' clearer at the [[series 8 (Doctor Who)|series 8]] page.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 16:33: Fri 07 Jun 2013</span>
::Hello, other administrator has resolved issue, please ignore above. [[User:RedWizard98|RedWizard98]] [[User talk:RedWizard98|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC)


== Speedy ==
== Wiki Rules and Blocking Policy ==
Please don't use '''speedy rename''' if you're suggesting a fundamental name change. You've suggested, for instance, a change from Girl Technician to Female technician (Day of the Daleks) and I don't know the reason why. There's no other Female Technician in the database, so I'm not getting the reason for the dab term, and I don't really know why you're changing from Girl to Female?  Which issue of the story is allowing you to make that suggestion?


'''speedy rename''' is only for a completely indisputable name change. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 02:22: Sat 08 Jun 2013</span>
Hey!


== Dates ==
Recently, Fandom staff [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Pikushi/Updates_to_Wiki_Rules_and_Blocking_Policy posted updates] to the [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Wiki_Rules_and_Blocking_Policy Fandom Wiki Rules and Blocking Policy]. As a reminder, this is a global policy to aid the wellbeing of communities that all wikis have been following since 2021. These new changes go into effect on '''April 4th'''.
[[:category:DWU days|DWU days]] will be fully reopened in about 2 minutes. Except of course for 1 June. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 23:00: Thu 13 Jun 2013</span>
:[[Special:Chat]], please. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 23:05: Thu 13 Jun 2013</span>


== Complying to Help You Out ==
I'll let you read through those changes and if you have any questions, please let me know on my talk page! :) --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 15:24, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Yeah, that occurred to me earlier. I had that sneaky suspicion you were going to ask me to jump over to a preferred section of the dates so I didn't smudge up your efforts to get the work done. It's all part of the sorting process. So now that you have requested me to move, I will. We all know the badges are enjoyable "brownie points", but I'm a certified Eagle Scout and I like things spic and span around the high-caliber wikis. Speaking of badges, I'm quietly waiting for the day we can have doctors 9 and onward up in the badge list, but that will have to take a number XD. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me"></span>]] 02:59, June 15, 2013 (UTC)


::Caught me just in time for the heads-up. So begins the long editing grind. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:12, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
== Maps ==


:::I'm going to stop once I bump up my badge at or near to the 100 mark and rest. That's around 20-30 pages, give or take 3 or 4 edits required per day to move info. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me"></span>]] 03:26, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
Hey! [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User:Spongebob456/Interactive_Maps Made a post about the new Interactive Maps feature] - does Tardis have any maps suitable for that? --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 12:14, 24 April 2022 (UTC)


::::Understood. I'm copy-pasting from Notepad and checking for braces around multiple instances of years to keep them in order. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:37, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
== Twice upon a Time Hartnell TARDIS ==


:::::I completed January and used it as a good stopping place. For now, just a few edits around the main Years pages and I'm signing off for the night. [[1 February]] is the next one to change. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:17, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
On the Fugitive Doctor TARDIS page, it states.


== Date pages ==
"The TARDIS prop appears to have the exterior used by the First Doctor as played by David Bradley in Twice Upon a Time, originally created as a replica of the William Hartnell-era TARDIS for the docu-drama An Adventure in Space and Time. The TARDIS console also carries over from these productions."
Please don't overwrite comic story release entries.  Since all media are equal, you shouldn't be giving more apparent attention to the comic stories than you do the televised ones.  Note the following diff:
* http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=3_October_%28releases%29&diff=1495991&oldid=1495989
Thanks! {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 23:22: Mon 17 Jun 2013</span>


== Not a problem ==
This is not correct. This exterior was commissioned from ThisPlanetEarth, who make TARDIS exterior replicas. The Box was in fact their Pertwee style box that was altered to more resemble the way the TARDIS looked in 1966, as the box was modified during the War Machines. Because of these modifications, the Adventures in Space and Time box would no longer resemble the box in 1966, being more based loosely on the 1963 prop.


Sure! I don't mind going back to the days that need splitting. These previous days were a short and necessary reprieve from editing to avoid eyestrain. Let's ease the burden, shall we? --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:33, June 18, 2013 (UTC)


:: Ha ha ha. Do I detect a hint of exhaustion? No worries. I've got the Discovery Channel and Torchwood radio dramas to keep me going. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:51, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
I can provide sources and evidence for this.


::: Understandable. It's just numbers. I wish we could add pictures to liven the dates up, but they'd certainly get in the way. [[21 October]], huh?
https://www.thisplanetearth.co.uk/maintardislanding.htm
Well, that's to be expected. Sometimes you break an egg when you're trying to organize the contents of a fridge, so to speak. Only this is a
repository of all the dates. I'll sharpen my attention so it doesn't (hopefully) happen again. I agree wholeheartedly on researching DW episodes. I'm almost done with Tennant's era and I went back to Pertwee for the classic experience. I'd check Hartnell and Troughton some more... if they weren't potholed to kingdom come by the missing episodes. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:03, June 18, 2013 (UTC)


== PA vs AFM ==
https://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=7920.0
The reason you're getting confused by some of our terminology pages is that they tend to be biased towards the new series. The [[production assistant]] page is almost certainly using a definition more applicable to [[BBC WAles]] than [[BBC Television Centre]].  


In [[DOC]]: ''[[So What Do You Do Exactly?]]'', [[Graeme Harper]] helpfully gives equivalencies between 1963 and 2005 terms:
https://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=10227.0
{|class=wikitable
|1963 term
|2005 term
|Notes
|-
|[[Production assistant]]||[[1st AD]]||PA was, like 1st AD today, the right-hand-man of the director. So this is very definitely the highest rank next to producer/director — the highest [[below the line]] rank reporting to the director. PAs back in the day also were [[location scout]]s (and essentially a [[location manager]] too).
|-
|[[Director's assistant]]||[[Production assistant]]||Harper claims that the director's assistant, actually also was responsible for continuity, so it's kinda like they were [[continuity supervisior]] and [[production secretary]] combined. The position was not often credited because the DA was permanently attached to the production office, but you can see the credit on official paper work. For ''[[The Seeds of Doom (TV story)|The Seeds of Doom]]'', for instance, the DA was [[Briony Brown]], who was there for quite a big chunk of the 1970s. The job eventually passed to [[Tom Baker]]'s current wife — so, yes, two of Tom Baker's wives had a long-running, influential association with DW. 
|-
|[[production unit manager]]||[[line producer]]/[[production manager]]||The highest ranking [[below the line]] individual reporting to the producer. Essentially the equivalent of the PA
|}


Now, Harper doesn't define an AFM in this piece — he does elsewhere, but honestly I've forgotten quite where.  But we do see production paperwork here (and all over the classic section of the [[Doctor Who website]]).  Consistently, the PA is listed above the AFM.  And if you stop to think about it for a second, that makes sense.  The AFM is someone who is only present on ''recording'' days.  The PM, as the 1st AD, is there for the whole of pre-production, location filming, and studio recording.  In other words, the title means, "I'm the director's assistant for the ''whole'' of production."  Hope that helps!  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:27: Wed 19 Jun 2013</span>
https://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=5030.0


== You're welcome! ==
== Crook ==


It most certainly did help to gloss up all those pages! I nabbed a 1,500 edit badge along with the Graham Norton 250 edit award. Bumped me 10 points shy of #19, which wasn't hard to attain. Hey, I know the leaderboard looks like all fluff, but it's an attention-getter. You never know if someone special might show up on TARDIS wiki and strike a conversation. I'm an aspiring comic writer just now beginning to pen the first chapter of my story. Maybe it will help me prove my merits one day. And this show is wicked good inspiration. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:40, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
How is a thief not a crook?


== Update on days ==
== When you have time ==
Very good progress indeed!  On comics, you're not supposed to "know".  You're supposed to just calculate.  I think you'll find a comprehensive list at a couple of places around the net, though. Altered Vistas and comicbookdb.com.  The comicbookdb.com list is probably the simplest to use for this particular task, since it neatly lays out every comic story by cover date. 


Oh and if you hadn't cottoned on to it, ''[[Empire of Death (novel)|Empire of Death]]'' is a date-based novel, where each of its seven chapters correspond to each one of the days between 14 and 21 February. Therefore what I've put down so far is essentially just place holding text — a ''massive'' simplification of things.  If you get access to this novel, these pages will need to be given better copy.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:31: Sun 23 Jun 2013</span>
Hey SOTO. Someone made a change to {{tlx|Actor or crew member/preload}} and I don't know enough about that template to know if the change broke something, fixed something, or is entirely irrelevant to how this wiki functions because we don't use it anywhere. Could you check it at your earliest convenience? [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:12, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
:Seriously, the work at comicbookdb.com is absolutely meticulous on that score. I strongly urge you to use that as your basis for everything from ''[[The Klepton Parasites (comic story)|The Klepton Parasites]]'' all the way to at least the beginning of the BBC Wales era at DWM.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:40: Sun 23 Jun 2013</span>
:::Not sure what you're talking about.  You don't need more than "Countdown" or "TV Action".  Brevity is what matters on date pages.  Besides, the indicia on Countdown remains Countdown/TV Action (or some very close variation thereof) throughout the entire run.  That is, the words "Countdown" "TV" and "Action" ''always'' appear in the indicia, regardless of the issue number, or what's going on with the cover. The cover goes through three major stages though: first ''Countdown'' then ''Countdown/TV Action'', then ''TV Action''.  Use the one appropriate to the story at hand.  Don't go all crazy with the ''exact'' cover; it honestly doesn't matter to ''this'' wiki. (Well, it matters on the page [[Countdown (magazine)]], but that's it.) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:53: Sun 23 Jun 2013</span>
::::Yeah, you're going a bit long on some of your lines.  Please note [http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=18_March_%28releases%29&diff=1499809&oldid=1499746 this diff].  For the most part, just get a year, the name of the actual release, and the company who released it. We can't really start doing issue numbers at this level, because we'd then have an imbalance between the Polystyle stuff — where we don't have individual issue pages — and the other stuff, where we do. Best just to avoid the apparent imbalance by leaving it at "published in ''[[TV Comic]]''" or "published in ''[[Doctor Who Magazine]]''". also, each line should have only one release.  So it's not "the script of [[The Power of the Daleks (TV story)]]"; it's "[[The Power of the Daleks (script)]]".  Remember, our watch word here is '''''simplify'''''.  Cut it back to the absolute barebones. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 02:35: Sun 23 Jun 2013</span>
::::Oh, and in that vein, let's just say that if the cover of the mag has "TV Action" in it, the strip "was published in ''TV Action''".  If it has ''Countdown'' alone on the cover, then it's from ''Countdown''. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 02:37: Sun 23 Jun 2013</span>
:::::[[18 March (releases)]] looks good, though I don't really think we need "by [[Target Books]]" after every novelisation.  The presumption is Target, surely, with those handful that aren't Target getting the specific publisher?  If you really strongly feel that having [[Target Books]] is actually necessary, go ahead, but my instinct is that it's largely superfluous info.  Also, I kinda dig inverting the usual sentence structure on entries.  It doesn't always have to be:
:::::::*<title> was published in <publication>/by <publisher>
::::::I think we can say things like "Part one of the ''TV Comic'' story <whatever> was published". I think if we have a standard for each media, then when we assemble pages with all different media, we'll have ensured sentence structure variety.  I mean, if we do all the comic stories one way, and all the TV stories another way, when you put em together on a single page, there's variance in the sentence structure. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:18: Sun 23 Jun 2013</span>


== Vetoing "books by genre" cat ==
== Forum issues / Talk to a user ==
I'm shutting down your "books by genre" notion before you go too far with it. It's going to require wayyyyyy too much speculation.  Many in-universe books are merely mentioned; it'll take too much [[T:NO RW]] creep to then define a genre. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:40: Sun 23 Jun 2013</span>
:Nah, [[:Category:Non-fiction books]] is fine.  That's easy to tell.  It's when you try to place ''[[Great Expectations]]'' into, I dunno, "historical drama" or some other genre classification that things get dicey. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 18:48: Sun 23 Jun 2013</span>


Can you join chat?
Hey, whenever you have the time, it would be nice if you could swing by [[Forum talk:Index]]. There's an ongoing discussion about our continuing lack of forums, and having some more feedback would always be nice. In addition, since I haven't asked you to be the bad guy since I've been back, could you please have a discussion with [[User:PepsiMagnet]] about their page creations? They're definitely engaging in good faith, but they keep creating pages with just a title and an infobox (and often the title is wrong, or the page shouldn't exist yet), and [[User:Shambala108]] has already specifically told them not to create pages. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
04:43, June 24, 2013 (UTC)


== EP1 messages ==
== Re: Image captions ==
If you're getting an "Emergency Protocol One" error, you're getting an error which is dressed up to look like it's coming from this wiki, but is in fact a Wikia-wide "database error".  In other words, there's nothing we can do about it. They do happen from time to time, but they aren't being caused by any local issue.  You'd get them (albeit with a different message) whether you were editing here or anywhere else on the Wikia network.  They tend to be extremely intermittent and short-lived, though, so I can't promise you that you'd get one here, then be able to go to another wiki and immediately trip the message there.
If it is against the rules... it should be stated in the rules, as I was able to point out this rule ''is not''. A user should not have to blindly trust another "more experienced" user, especially one that the user has had problems with in the past. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:01, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
: I struggle to see good faith in a user continually engaging with another user that has indicated that they do not want to interact with them. Surely this site has rules regarding that? Why should I ''have'' to interact with a user that makes me feel uncomfortable when they could just as easily ask an admin to intervene if they think I am doing something wrong? [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:14, 20 November 2022 (UTC)


They do ''tend'' to happen in the middle of the night in mainland US time zones, because that's morning in Poland, where Wikia's engineering team is located. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:45: Mon 24 Jun 2013</span>
== DrWHOCorrieFan ==


== More day matters ==
Hi, SOTO. I left a message on this user's page because they've been consistently uploading images of more than 100 KB and haven't been categorising them. They've indicated that they don't intend to follow these rules, so I wonder if you might be able to have a word. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:16, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Yes, I would probably put the publisher on novelisations where it's ''not'' Target.  Obviously, it's a little more vital on [[Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks]], [[Doctor Who and the Crusaders]], and [[Doctor Who and the Zarbi]], where you've got what we might consider truly different ''editions'' done by different publishers.  I think in the case of these three books, we probably should note the first non-Target edition and then the subsequent first Target edition. 


But I definitely don't think that, for the purposes of the day pages, that it's particularly noteworthy to indicate when the first Pinnacle or Virgin reprints are.
: Are there ''seriously'' no rules regarding harassment on this site? This is a very clear case.


As for whether I'm doing ordinal redirects, well, it's not particularly high on my to-do list. Nominally, though, I suppose it's consistent with the original forum ruling that allowed us to switch to cardinal dating. So it probably will be coming.  Ordinal dating is not a part of the way I use English so it never occurs to me write  "the 21st December" — which probably explains why we don't already have the redirects.  If it were me, the redirects would be at "the 21st of December", but that's not the way the community swung. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:58: Mon 24 Jun 2013</span>
: I am a user who can take criticism and advice, all you have to do is look at [[User:OncomingStorm12th]] pointing out to me that a ton of pages I created were taking up space on [[Special:LonelyPages]] and I immediately combatted this by creating a template to house the pages. But I refuse to do so from a user who makes me feel deeply uncomfortable and that I have repeatedly asked to limit interaction with me. Making out that I'm refusing to follow the rules, rather than refusing to acknowledge a user who knows that they make me feel uncomfortable, is a fabrication. A user should not have to interact with someone who makes them feel uncomfortable. It isn't like I make a habit of accusing other users of this, it is a single user who I have had problems with in the past and no longer want to interact with. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:27, 24 November 2022 (UTC)


== July wordmark ==
== “You may” template ==
Help me remember: did we settle on a Seven wordmark? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 22:49: Tue 25 Jun 2013</span>


== More date stuff ==
Hiya - since you were the last admin to edit the "You may" template, you may want to look at the talk page I created for it, where I raised some issues. Over on Stranger Things Wiki, I designed the equivalent templates to ensure they don't create awkward squashed text. For the most part, TARDIS is excellently designed, but the issues with this particular template stick out like a sore thumb. <br>
Hey :) In some instances, I'm just going to drop a note on date talk pages, as with [[Talk:23 February]]. I don't always have the time to read and understand what's going on, but I ''will'' try to leave at least a note any time I find ''anything''.
https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Template_talk:You_may [[User:TheGreatGabester|TheGreatGabester]] [[User talk:TheGreatGabester|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:51, 13 December 2022 (UTC)


Also, I should tell you that I have given up on trying to make sense of ''[[The Time Travellers (novel)|The Time Travellers]]''.  That thing is ''full'' of specific dates, but I have ''no'' Idea what's happening there.  I can't tell what's real or what's not real, so I guess I'll have to go back and read it from cover to cover and hope for the best.  But I'm not too optimistic about everything making sense based on my own distant memories of the work, and the recent ''Doctor Who Book Club Podcast'' on the subject. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 20:50: Thu 27 Jun 2013</span>
== Undelete talk page ==
:Hmmm, I see your logic, but it doesn't quite work correctly in a cooperative environment.  I'd rather the {{tlx|DeleteDate}} message stay active (and indeed the page usefully categorised), until we ''actually'' have information on the page.  A blank page is less helpful than a ''nearly'' blank page with a tophat soliciting an editor's help.  Talk pages are, by tradition, the place for notes about how to edit the article, not hidden messages on the ns:0 page. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 21:12: Thu 27 Jun 2013</span>


== Chat ==
Hey, I'm not sure if this will be at all interesting, but when you have time could you undelete [[Talk:The mighty 200]]? I found a reference to it on an old talk page, so it might be worth looking at. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me"></span>]] 05:55, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
[[Special:Chat|Sidebar, m'lud]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 13:38: Tue 02 Jul 2013</span>
:Weird, I thought you would like it. I take it from your quick sign off that's not the case? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 19:18: Tue 02 Jul 2013</span>


== Year pages ==
== Inclusion Debates 2. ==
Year pages are in, and most of the programming surrounding them has been completed.  There's just a little kink left to fix on the {{tlx|YearNav}} front to make {{tlx|YearNav}} appear on the pages with dab terms.  Otherwise {{tlx|YearNavLateral}} offers only alternatives that are sensible for the particular year (i.e., no (releases) in 1935, but (people) is allowed).  Basic deal is that 1897 forward have (people) pages, except for a few scattered pages in the 1890s where there are no recorded births.  1960 forward have production pages, while 1963 forward have release dates. (''Forward'' means "until and including 2013".) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 18:44: Fri 05 Jul 2013</span>


== User pages ==
Hey, SOTO, ''that'' 10k Dawns thread is currently viewable in inclusion debates 2. The one nobody is supposed to be able to see. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:31, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
:Obviously you're still moving stuff around, but just a heads up that [[User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon III]] is out of order. Absolutely no rush, what exists is fantastically workable compared to the early days of the wiki. But just to bring it to your attention. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:03, 4 May 2023 (UTC)


Hi! Please re-read [[Tardis:Vandalism policy]]. You are '''not''' to alter another user's page, no matter the circumstances. There are several things wrong with the recent edit you made to [[User:Snivystorm]]'s user page.
== Please join me in Slack ==
* You didn't contact an admin instead of doing it yourself. This is a violation of the vandalism policy. Contact an admin instead, and I'll go on record as saying I don't care enough about spoilers for the new series so I will be happy to take care of any spoiler violations.
* Your edit summary clearly states that you know you're not supposed to do it but you're going to do it anyway. As a very prolific editor, new users will take their cue from people like you. Please try not to blatantly violate policies.
* You left your reasoning in an edit summary, but edit summaries have a very short lifetime of being easy to find. It will soon be buried in the page history. Some new users don't even know that the "recent activity" page exists or how to find the reason for an edit. This new user may have no idea what policy he/she violated, and may continue to add the information until someone lets him/her know on their talk page why their user page was changed. When users, especially new ones, violate policy in their edits, I always let them know on their talk pages why their edits were changed.
Thanks for reading this rather long post. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:11, July 13, 2013 (UTC)


== Year pages ==
Hey hey! LTNS! Would you mind joining me in Slack to share your plans for the Forum?  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 18:03: Wed 10 May 2023</span>
Year pages are unlocked, since I've now done as much as I can do with them via a bot. Feel free to tackle them, liaising with [[User:Cult Of Skaro|Cult Of Skaro]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 02:50: Sun 14 Jul 2013</span>
:Actually a meeting in Diosco might be more convenient. Any chance you could stop by there and befrikend me, cause you don't seem to have your habndle in your provileMine is in my profileYou should know that the Forum namespace is now open. That would seem to obviate some of the plans CHris has told me you have made, and I'd like a chance to discuss a few things. Thanks! {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 02:55: Thu 11 May 2023</span>
:Nah, feel free to go full steam on year pagesThe only reason they were locked was to ensure that bot processes wouldn't create/get stopped by edit conflictsNow that those are largely over, there's no reason to limit editing access. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 12:28: Sun 14 Jul 2013</span>


== Girl's Best Friend ==
== Heads up about the thanks extension ==
Deadlink, I'm afraid. If it was working, it's since been withdrawn. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:00: Tue 16 Jul 2013</span>
:Whatever the case: disallowed. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:25: Tue 16 Jul 2013</span>


== Chat ===
Hi. I just wanted to give you a heads up that Tardis is testing the "thanks" extension which Fandom will be rolling out to all wikis soon. This extension allows editors to thank other editors for their edits. The editor being thanked will then recieve a notification. Therefore, while you're actively performing edits, you may receieve a few more notifications than normal. If you notice any bugs, pass them onto [[User:Spongebob456]]. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:58, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Chat, now.  You've been rather naughty, it seems. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:40: Tue 16 Jul 2013</span>


==Eight's wordmark==
== Admin+ ==
Hey, do you still have the Photoshop (or whatever program you used) files for [[:file:TardisDataCoreEight3.png]]?
[[file:TardisDataCoreEight3.png|center]]
I'm finding that on the page, given that we need it to work on both dark and light backgrounds, [[:file:TardisDataCoreEight4.png]] isn't quite working, because there's not ''quite'' enough of the outline of his hair to make it work. 


If there's any way you could take Eight3.png and make the head the same height as the "T" in TARDIS? Not looking for a lot of work; just stretch the McGann outline a few pixels taller so that it's level with the top of the text. Thanks :)  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 02:06: Thu 01 Aug 2013</span>
Hey there! I’m reaching out to introduce the Admin+ program (if you haven’t heard about it already!) & let you know I’m here if you have any questions about it. Take a look at the details [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Admin_Plus here] & feel free to send over any questions you have. <span style="font-family: Rubik; border-radius:8em; padding:0 5px; background:#d58494">[[User:Pikushi|<span style="color:#f1f5ff">pikushi ✧.*</span>]] </span>  <staff /> 20:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
:Thanks much for doing that so quickly. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 06:02: Thu 01 Aug 2013</span>


== Re. Release Days ==
== Re: Discord ==
Iii am so sorry, I messed up and made the request disappear — could you send it again? But it's very very good to hear from you. (EDIT: Okay, I've found the means to resend one ''to'' you myself, so… could you accept that one, haha? Sorry about this mess.) [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 20:19, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 
== Outdated sentence on ParentsPage ==
Hiya. Just wanted to point out that the [[Tardis:ParentPage|ParentPage]] still cites the Peter Cushing films as invalid sources. [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:53, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 
== Deadname forum ==
 
Hey, could you perhaps take a look at [[Forum:Clarifying in-universe deadnaming policy in response to Rose Noble]]. I think it would be great to hear your view on the matter as this one might sit close to you, on both sides of the matter. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 
== Sock puppet ==
 
Hi, I have a favor to ask. I am probably the least technical person on this wiki, and I don't know how to check for sock puppetry, or even if I have the permissions to do that. There is a series of users, most with similar names, that have been uploading the same images, without licenses and breaking several other policies, over the last two weeks or so. I have given two of them short blocks for repeat offenses, but another one or more have appeared. It's pretty apparent from their behavior that they are most likely the same person using different names, especially after I blocked a couple of them. If you are able, could you check on [[User:Theincrediblehulk2003]], [[User:Hulkbreaktheworld]], [[User:Hulksmashtheworld]] and [[User:The Worldbreaker Hulk]]. There may be more, but these four are the ones I can recall. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:29, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 
:Thanks and that answers my question, none of us have that ability :D Next time I'll go to Fandom staff. Thanks again, [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:33, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== That weird IP user again ==
 
Hey SOTO, if you could block 183.132.187.157 and delete the pages they created that would be lovely. Cheers. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:08, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 
== Prop delete query ==
 
I've been looking through the [[:Category:Proposed deletions]] category recently and noticed an inordinate amount are pages lurking as sub-pages of your page. Some of them are obviously archived forum pages, and others not, I just wanted to double check with you that these should be in the delete category (or not). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:58, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 
== Forum Archives ==
 
Hey, obviously zero, zero pressure. I'm just curious whether the plan is to move [[User:SOTO/Forum Archive]] to a more permanent location in the near future now that we're on the new site or if it's lower down on the priority list. If that's the plan, I'll hold off on adding threads from that era to [[User:Najawin/Sandbox 7|my sandbox]]. (Again, absolutely no pressure here, this is just wondering so I can figure out how to organize my own stuff.) Cheers. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:16, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 
== Changing username ==
 
Hi, SOTO. Bongolium said you might be able to help.
 
The "BtR" in my username was chosen because it was the initials of my first Wikia username so I could be recognised, but I'm not a huge fan of it. I also chose "Saxon" at random, so I'm not particularly attached to my username.
 
Would you be able to change my name to a mononymous "Jack"? If that's not possible, let me know and I'll spend some time thinking up a new and more unique one.
 
Thanks. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:57, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 
: That's great, thanks very much. (And sorry about my problematic punctuation marks!) [[User:Jack|Jack]] [[User talk:Jack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:09, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 
== Thanks for the message ==
 
Just wanted to say hey, thanks for the message. I had no idea about this shift, although I remember ages ago when Oasis was being changed or something, there was talk then about moving, and it was mostly in the 'too hard' basket. I considered staying over there, but with most of the admins left for here it would've been less than great to remain, I remember when we struggled for admins and it became a slog to keep things going. And as an "old guard" it certainly made me realise how long I'd been on the other place. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 05:14, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
:I too am a bit sad to be leaving too, especially so leaving the remaining admins who have stayed.
:But then I think of changes like Twitter to X, that made me look into Mastodon. And at some point a decision needs to be made.
:I don't get that involved at Wikimedia, I'm mostly categorising images and working through their backlog of images needing categories. But I'll look in and see how things are moving.
:I've only been working my way through all the stubs and other pages like that. I keep cycling through all those maintenance categories as that's what I realised people were tagging stuff to be done, and then it was forgotten about, or never removed, I'm not worried about anything of that which might've been missed.
:Only thing I've created in the past days was [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Tardis:User_talk_pages https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Tardis:User_talk_pages] mostly to address a missing explainer that I think we all take for granted. I was sure it was explained elsewhere in a Manual of Style that might've been edited away.
:I think most of our policies need a read through and check, there's a lot of stuff that's either been dropped because of changes to the wiki, or features been removed or other changes. So whether it's moved over or not doesn't matter.
:I'll keep an eye out, bureaucrat wise for name changes. Although I think it might be sensible to add a "renaming" section to the user name policy, or to create a "User name renaming policy" or something like that. I can foresee a huge potential problem for sockpuppetry and other issues if we don't do due diligence on the renaming. It might be best if we just have a blanket 'no' until there's policy in place. And as a bureaucrat we ultimately carry the most blame / power regarding this. I had it for ages over there, and there were very few bureaucrats (very few people want the extra level of responsibility above admin), so I'm glad there's more here. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 06:07, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 
===Renaming users===
I've seen your work on the [[Help:Changing your username]], and we are risking this process getting away from us, very quickly.
 
I've drafted up a policy for name changes in brief; can only be done once ever 365 days, you need a certain number of edits. I'm not sure where to set the threshold for edit count, it can't be too low because you should just create a new account if that's the problem.
 
The full draft here: [[User:Tangerineduel/Sandbox 7]].
 
But I also think we need to get all the other policies it references edited and in place, so possibly a pause on renames as well, while all this is going on. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 05:28, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Sure go ahead with edits. Only I will say when / if the policy comes to a point where it needs to go to a page I'll probably just copy and paste it, rather than moving. All my current sandboxes I've used, deleted and reused a several times.
:If you think the edit history should be preserved I'll create another (new) sandbox with a clean history so it can be moved when the time comes.
:I was just thinking back in the early days of the old wiki, I'm sure that's what people'd do, create a new account and say 'this is my new account'.
:My intent with that wording was to minimise work for us.
:Ideally this policy shouldn't need to be used, or it's difficult to be used, to reduce the amount of work that's needed behind the scenes. Even limiting to 1 a year, if we get people wanting a change or asking on talk pages etc, that's still going to add up. I know it's people from the old wiki taking the chance to change something at the moment. And I acknowledge that there's not a lot of people ''now'' but I'm looking ahead to potential problems.
:The [[Tardis:Username policy]] should already cover any problematic user names. But we can add something that allows us to further enforce that.
:I think the <code>checkuser</code> role really needs to be used extremely sparingly. I think I'd prefer to just liberally use the block function.
:I agree we really need to consider how we represent ourselves now we're on our own. Back at the old place it was still wikia (and all it became) to point to as being the overseers of it all.
:I'm happy to put my oar in if you want an additional voice, but I'm less technical and more policy and content minded, while trying to head off problems.  —[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 
== Infobox image ==


Hi SOTO,
Hi SOTO,


Thank you for your hypercube of 11:32, August 5, 2013.
Just wanted to check in and apologise for editing the infobox gallery on [[The Doctor]] without community discussion. I had done so on 'Fandom' and nobody pulled me on it - not an excuse, it's just why I copied the edit over to here without realising I shouldn't have done. I have since started a discussion about it on the Talk page. My bad! — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Talk">•</span>]] 19:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 
== Thanks ==
 
Thanks for restoring my admin bit while I was bumbling around the new place. As I said to Tangerineduel, it’s nice to have it, even if, as Cassandra said about the Doctor’s “parts”, they’re barely used. —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
: Absolutely! Welcome back to the family. I'm so glad you made it, after all. &#x1f499;[[File:SmallerOnTheOutside.png|19px]][[File:SmallerOnTheOutside.png|19px]]
 
: (I noticed your note about keeping things on one talk page, so I'm following suit. I've heard whispers of a plan to discuss changing that convention in a forum discussion, so conversations are easier to follow. It is, after all, something quite peculiar to Tardis.){{User:SOTO/sig}} 06:45, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


I apologise for any inconvenience my recent editing of ''Days of the year'' articles may have caused.  
:::<small>(See [[Forum:Conversations across two user talk pages]].) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:55, 3 March 2024 (UTC) </small>
:::: {{small|Oh, thank you!{{User:SOTO/sig}} 08:36, 3 March 2024 (UTC)}}


I can assure you I had no idea I was going against the rules, as I had not read the thread you mentioned, and will understand if you wish to withdraw the ''When Ten Became Eleven'' badge I earned for making 50 edits.
== Username change ==


As I would definitely like to ''help'' the cause, I would greatly appreciate it if you could tell me "some of the stuff that needs to get done", as you quoted in your hypercube, plus your decision regarding the aforementioned badge.
Hi again SOTO, I believe you may be able to assist - if possible, I'd like to change my username to simply "Fractal". It doesn't appear to be registered, so I'm hopeful it can be done. I chose my original username based on old fanfiction, and no longer wish to be associated with it, but I would like to keep the "Fractal" element of it (which will also help with regards to people still recognising who I am). Please could you let me know if this is possible? Thank you. — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Talk">•</span>]] 21:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
Thank you kindly for the username change :) — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Talk">•</span>]] 18:59, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


Once again, I apologise.
== Username Change ==


I await your reply with great interest.
Hi SOTO,


[[User:Freddie R. Aldous|Freddie R. Aldous]] [[User talk:Freddie R. Aldous|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:22, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
Back when I made my account, all those years ago, I was not very wise with my username choice. The less sites it is on the better, so can I please have it changed to Laura in the TARDIS. Thank you [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


== {{tlx|ImageLinkComics}} ==
:That's perfectly fine. I'm happy to wait. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly (and for the pre-approval). [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:00, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Template has been fixed. Thanks for your help. Please do ''not'' continue the practice of adding an appending pipe. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 11:40: Sat 10 Aug 2013</span>


== Years ==
::Thank you for sorting that out for me. [[User:Laura|Laura]] [[User talk:Laura|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
What kinda bot runs would you like? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 13:52: Sat 10 Aug 2013</span>
:By my reckoning, all bot runs have been completed as requested.  Lemme know if I've missed something.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 18:36: Tue 13 Aug 2013</span>


== Reminder ==
== A month of edits, and a change of name ==


Hey, I just wanted to remind you to come to an [[admin]] to remove spoilers from talk pages, per [[Tardis:Vandalism policy]], instead of doing it yourself. You can always post a request on my talk page. I check the site several times a day, and I check my email even more often, and I will be notified fairly quickly. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:35, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
I just want to say I appreciate just how much a behemoth of workload I'm sure you have, you're doing a great job. I'm just wondering what my options are, having had no idea this was even happening I did virtually a month's worth of edits which I'd love to get back. And also a change in username, if possible, would be nice, I'm thinking FuturesEnd. Thanks! [[User:StevieGLiverpool|StevieGLiverpool]] [[User talk:StevieGLiverpool|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
:To be more specific, I am talking about '''user''' talk pages. Sorry for any confusion. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:35, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
==2014 annual==
I don't know if you saw my reply on the [[Talk:Doctor_Who_The_Official_50th_Anniversary_Annual_(2014)|talk page]], but that annual has been out since at least last week at WHSmith. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|13:39,22/8/2013}}


== Stubs ==
== RE: Welcome! ==


Ah, my apologies. Thanks for letting me know.
I'm glad to see everything transferred swimmingly! I'll have a double check to see if there's any edits I should manually get in here, but other than that sounds good. Many thanks for putting me at number 2! [[User:StevieGLiverpool|StevieGLiverpool]] [[User talk:StevieGLiverpool|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:14, 15 March 2024 (UTC)


[[User:SpaceTimeWiggles|SpaceTimeWiggles]] [[User talk:SpaceTimeWiggles|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:11, August 27, 2013 (UTC)SpaceTimeWiggles
==User rename policy==
Just thought I'd drop a message to say I've created [[Tardis:User rename policy]] and its related [[Tardis:User rename policy/Change request]] subpage. There's inuse tags on them so we can make any changes before making this official. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 04:03, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


== Birth Date of Murray Gold ==
== Thanks for the edit and I have a question ^^' ==


While I understand, after you having linked [[T:NO SELF REF]], I would like to point out that on the [[28 February (people)]] page, his birth is listed, albeit unsourced, so would it be necessary to have a source on the [[Murray Gold]] page, or would it be the proper action to remove the listing from the date article? The latter seems slightly unnecessary, but as I am a new editor on this wiki, I figured I best ask someone else. --[[User:ToaMeiko|ToaMeiko]] [[User talk:ToaMeiko|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:52, August 28, 2013 (UTC)
Hello, thank you very much for uploading my edits (sorry if it took me a long time to respond, I'm having A LOT of trouble to use the user page...I even don't know if it's the right place to ask that...) while I'm here I have a question, on my user page, is it possible to put one or two images that would not have their place on wiki pages, just to make it look nice for a little bio...
If this is not the case, sorry for having disturbed :/ If so, how do we put other images that will not be used for the wikia, and sorry for the disturbance too...
[[User:KaradegRara|KaradegRara]] [[User talk:KaradegRara|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:36, 2 April 2024 (UTC)KaradegRara


== Donating a monthly logo to the TARDIS Wiki ==
Edit : Thanks a lot for the answer! ^^' [[User:KaradegRara|KaradegRara]] [[User talk:KaradegRara|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:11, 2 April 2024 (UTC)KaradegRara


I have done something bold and contributed a Ninth Doctor logo for this month.
== Light theme subheadings ==
[[File:Wiki Wordmark 9th Doctor.png]]


Would it be appropriate for September? Now, I've seen various logos get donated on the fly, and messages distinguishing the new logos on the Twitter feed for TARDIS Wiki, but I don't know if there is a process of approval. It said you designed one, so does this one hold a feather of being used? --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:21, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
There's been an issue with the light theme for a number of days now where the subheadings appear blue, with the text themeselves being almost unreadable. I think it's to do with the subheadings being matched to the dark theme's background colour and not flipping to the corresponding light theme's background colour when that's used. I can't be the only one using the light theme, hoping you can help. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 04:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)


: Yes, yes, I was indeed late to the party. No harm in trying, eh? It's been about 2 days without any alterations to the logo, a little longer of a wait than I thought. As for this logo mockup, I can rededicate it to my user page so that it doesn't go to waste, because I wholesomely approve of the design the community picked out! The minimalist look is superbly used by focusing on Nine's jacket lapels. And for the record, the photomanipulation in GIMP to make the background transparent really cost me time, which is why I ran late. Tell you what, I'll whip up a Tenth Doctor logo and present it right before we do the logo swap again. Thanks for pointing me to that thread so I can be prepared for next time. Two more months, two more Doctors. Fingers crossed :D --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:03, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
==Sixth Doctor contents box==


:: Strike that last statement, I rather like this one you made.
Hi, not sure if you are the right admin for this, so please forward to the appropriate person. I was editing the Sixth Doctor's page, and his contents box is much lower down than expected, it's appearing at the start of the biography section, with a big gap between the infobox and the contents box. I have checked on multiple browsers, and that it isn't happening for other larger pages such as the Fifth, Seventh and Eighth Doctors. I can see a template on the page which is misplaced so could be a wider error in the page, unless the template is in an unexpected place. Thanks [[User:AdricLovesNyssa|AdricLovesNyssa]] [[User talk:AdricLovesNyssa|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:20, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
[[File:TardisDataCoreTen18.png|left]]


However, that thread you sent me to went silent around April, not really deciding on what to fill the December slot, just a "Happy Holidays" variation. This was before ''[[The Name of the Doctor]]'' introduced the mystery incarnation. I can discuss him just barely, since he's past knowledge, but not fully explored. By December, that "new" Doctor will be less spoiler-sensitive. With some nudging, that one could be used complete the 12 months. I am tempted to mention ''another'' option... but I mustn't- off limits because of our stringent spoiler policy. Save that one for January!
== CSS issue on transmat pages ==
--[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:29, September 1, 2013 (UTC)


::: Splendid news!! I will do my best to make a decent render of the Eleventh Doctor, likely his Series 5-7a look and adjusting his bowtie. I also agree that we need a special logo for the anniversary- a Totter's Lane design was brought up. Unfortunately, the user who made it caught a ban for being too persistent with wordmarks. Again, thank you! :) --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:31, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
hi! i dont know if you're aware of this issue, but i was looking at some of the transmat pages (specifically [[Transmat:Torchwood]], but i checked and the other transmat pages linked on the wiki's main page have the same issue) with the dark theme enabled and i noticed that the little boxes on these pages are white, and the text in them is light grey, which makes them pretty difficult to read.


:::: Well, It took about 90 minutes for me to make something brilliant. You made a design with the Sonic Screwdriver. I took that idea and made it even better. I traced a picture of it and the Doctor in his tweed suit with my own personal accents.
--[[User:Juette|Juette]] [[User talk:Juette|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
[[File:Eleventh Doctor Wordmark.png]]


How does this one look? It took all my concentration to get the lines drawn right. If you want a transparent edit, I'll provide it. I'm extremely proud of how well this idea turned out. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:54, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
== Game of Rassilon and Badges ==


::::: Sigh... That's OK. At least we're halfway there. Admittedly, that design is making me squint. It was blown up to 800% in Bitmap, which is deceiving. I'll give this project a long rest and let you breathe. Wordmark thread now bookmarked for when a new idea hits- ''if'' it hits. There's just not a lot of pixels to work with. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:54, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
Hi SOTO,
 
Is there any chance of badges and the Game of Rasillon returning to the new wiki?
 
[[user:gingerfool|<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 1px #d4af37, 0 0 1px white, 0 0 1px #d4af37, 0 0 19px white, 0 0 12px #d4af37; cursor:help" title="What are you hovering over me for? I know you want to click me!"><span style="font-family:'Courier';color:#00FF2F;transform:rotate(-5deg);display:inline-block">SID<span style="transform:rotate(10deg);display:inline-block;color:Orange">'gingerfool'</span>RAT</span>]] <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 1px #d4af37, 0 0 2px white, 0 0 5px #d4af37, 0 0 19px white, 0 0 12px #d4af37;"><font size="4" face="Futura" color="white">''' - '''</font></span>[[user talk:gingerfool|<span style="cursor:help" title="My Talk Page.">☎</span>]]<span class="mw-customtoggle-EpsilonSignature"; style="cursor:help" title="Click to see more!"><sup>🔎</sup></span> <span class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-EpsilonSignature"><span style="text-shadow: 0 0 1px #d4af37, 0 0 2px white, 0 0 5px #d4af37, 0 0 19px white, 0 0 12px #d4af37;"><font size="3" face="Futura" color="white">'''|'''</font></span>[[special:Contributions/gingerfool|<span style="cursor:help" title="My rather boring contributions.">📂</span>]]<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 1px #d4af37, 0 0 2px white, 0 0 5px #d4af37, 0 0 19px white, 0 0 12px #d4af37;"><font size="3" face="Futura" color="white">'''|'''</font></span>[[user:Gingerfool/guestbook|<span style="cursor:help" title="My Guestbook. Sign it if you want to feel a bit cheeky.">📝</span>]]</span></div> 21:47, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 
== Sandbox edit ==
Is there any particular reason why you undid my last sandbox edit…? [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
: Aaaaaahhhh. Beg your pardon. [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 
== Userbox-R ==
 
Hi SOTO,


== Regex thingie ==
Do you have the technical know-how to make a userbox-r template, as I don't know how to.
Confused by your regex code.  Not sure what you want me to do with it. Not in the habit of testing out relatively complex code unless I have a plain English understanding of what you think the code will do.  ''What'' are you unhappy with in the date display of BBC DVD releases?  Explain to me in plain English what you want your code to do.


Note that regex comes in a lot of "stripes" or "flavours", and that what you read online may not actually work with pywikipedia, the bot we use. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 06:48: Tue 03 Sep 2013</span>
Thanks in advance.


== Image template proposal ==
[[user:gingerfool|<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 1px #d4af37, 0 0 1px white, 0 0 1px #d4af37, 0 0 19px white, 0 0 12px #d4af37; cursor:help" title="What are you hovering over me for? I know you want to click me!"><span style="font-family:'Courier';color:#00FF2F;transform:rotate(-5deg);display:inline-block">SID<span style="transform:rotate(10deg);display:inline-block;color:Orange">'gingerfool'</span>RAT</span>]] <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 1px #d4af37, 0 0 2px white, 0 0 5px #d4af37, 0 0 19px white, 0 0 12px #d4af37;"><font size="4" face="Futura" color="white">''' - '''</font></span>[[user talk:gingerfool|<span style="cursor:help" title="My Talk Page.">☎</span>]]<span class="mw-customtoggle-EpsilonSignature"; style="cursor:help" title="Click to see more!"><sup>🔎</sup></span> <span class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-EpsilonSignature"><span style="text-shadow: 0 0 1px #d4af37, 0 0 2px white, 0 0 5px #d4af37, 0 0 19px white, 0 0 12px #d4af37;"><font size="3" face="Futura" color="white">'''|'''</font></span>[[special:Contributions/gingerfool|<span style="cursor:help" title="My rather boring contributions.">📂</span>]]<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 1px #d4af37, 0 0 2px white, 0 0 5px #d4af37, 0 0 19px white, 0 0 12px #d4af37;"><font size="3" face="Futura" color="white">'''|'''</font></span>[[user:Gingerfool/guestbook|<span style="cursor:help" title="My Guestbook. Sign it if you want to feel a bit cheeky.">📝</span>]]</span></div> 20:10, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
It's not an unfeasible proposal. It's merely unwise. Admin cannot put themselves in the position of endlessly cleaning up people's work. I mean, we're already doing cleanup jobs with [[T:SPEEDY]] and any number of things.  But I guess I and [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]] feel that learning to upload the images correctly is not so difficult.


An image either fits those guidelines or it doesn't. If it doesn't, you delete it and move on. Yeah, sure, occasionally I'll have mercy and redo it. But most of the time, it's not worth it.  If the image is <250px, it's not salvageable ''at all''. If it's a framing problem, it's often tricky to refactor.  If it's blurry, there's nothing to salvage.
== Where could I talk about an interpretation I have about "The Legend of Ruby Sunday"? ^^' ==


The only scenario that's quick, I'll grant you, is the conversion of .png to .jpg. But the truth is that I ''want'' to delete those.  I want to make a point to the uploader that they're not acceptable.  I don't want to do his or her cleanup for them.  I want them to see that we're not playing around: .pngs will be deleted on sight.
Hello, I'm sorry to bother... again... but I just finished to watch "The Legend of Ruby Sunday" and it impacted me for personal reasons and I really want to talk about it, of my interpretation of someone's comeback and it echoed in my head about a dialogue between the 1st Doctor and Bill in "Twice Upon a Time" (I try to avoid spoils, just in case) </br>
Edit : Nevermind, I just wrote it on my own page... sorry for the inconvenience :/
[[User:KaradegRara|KaradegRara]] [[User talk:KaradegRara|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:10, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


Deletion of images is ''useful'', even though it temporarily means that we've lost an image.  The only way to train people to do the work correctly is to spend time talking to them on their talk page, and then, if necessary, show them that you're perfectly prepared to delete their work until they observe our really quite simple rules.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 08:39: Tue 03 Sep 2013</span>
== The Last Day ==


==Chat==
Hi, SOTO! Could I trouble you to merge ''[[The Last Day 1 (audio story)]]'' and ''[[The Last Day 2 (audio story)]]'' into ''[[The Last Day (audio story)]]''? There's been [[Talk:The Last Day 1 (audio story)|a discussion]] about it. [[User:Jack|Jack]] [[User talk:Jack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Go to chat please.
--QuestionRules 23:24, September 9, 2013 (UTC)


Can you look again at my forum about the episode template. For one a made a test template [[Template:EpisodeTest]]. I need more people on board with this.--QuestionRules 00:57, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
== Tagged ==


==RE: British Spelling==
Hey. Not that the wording choice matters, but "impliedly" is a word. It means, "[https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/impliedly in a manner that is hinted at or suggested rather than directly expressed]". I probably first heard about it when learning how an Act of Parliament can impliedly repeal an early one, so perhaps it's more commonly used in the British legal world. [[User:Jack|Jack]] [[User talk:Jack|<span title="Talk to me"></span>]] 19:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Oh dear me... I'm so sorry. I actually knew that there was a difference in British spelling for the verb and noun, I guess I had forgotten it. Thank you so much for telling me before I became so oblivious of all of the incorrect edits I have been making. Thank you for the links as well, they will aid me greatly. Now, I don't think I should bother changing all my edits because of the bot, do I? - <font face="MS Serif,Arial" size="2" color="black"><small><span style="border:1px solid #E56717;">[[User:Speedysnitch|<font style="background:#FFF380;color:black;">&nbsp;'''Speedysnitch'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Speedysnitch|<font style="background:#gold;color:black;">&nbsp; '''Talk'''&nbsp;</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Speedysnitch|<font style="background:#D3AA24;color:black;">&nbsp;'''contribs'''&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small></font> 01:11, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


:Great, I think I will need to look more into depth about how this Wikia works. No need to do it on your own! I'll help you undo my errors, it won't be a problem for me. Then again, I might make another mistake whilst doing that... which is certainly what I don't want to do! - <font face="MS Serif,Arial" size="2" color="black"><small><span style="border:1px solid #E56717;">[[User:Speedysnitch|<font style="background:#FFF380;color:black;">&nbsp;'''Speedysnitch'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Speedysnitch|<font style="background:#gold;color:black;">&nbsp; '''Talk'''&nbsp;</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Speedysnitch|<font style="background:#D3AA24;color:black;">&nbsp;'''contribs'''&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small></font> 14:47, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
: Nah, it's no problem! It should be as easy to understand as possible. [[User:Jack|Jack]] [[User talk:Jack|<span title="Talk to me"></span>]] 20:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)


== Tunnel Terrors! ==
== Jenny One and infobox ==


I really dont mind being bothered :) Someone had created some pages which I've just started to catch up with and one being ''Tunnel Terrors''. I forgot how to request that a page be re-named to correct the mistake - that was top on my pending list - before I got distracted with Companions (Virgin)  (which incidently I feel would better be entitled ''Doctor Who: Companions'' - and avoid any confusion lol)
Hi there, I was waiting for someone to come along who could help with Jenny. Firstly an easy one: since the naming system seems to have established itself as [[Jenny 7]] and [[Jenny 8]], it is perhaps best for us to rename [[Jenny One]] to [[Jenny 1]]? I think your rename of Category is a great idea too.
Feel free to refresh my memory btw [[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] [[User talk:The Librarian|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:55, October 2, 2013 (UTC)
:: Opps! My bad - Didnt realise I had created that page twice - was getting it confused with [[Teachers Pet (comic story)]] that should be [[Teacher's Pet (comic Story)]] ...its late! [[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] [[User talk:The Librarian|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:01, October 2, 2013 (UTC)


==Question==
Secondly, would it be perhaps worth our time making one of those little infoboxes that sit on the side of a page with the Jenny ships in chronological order? As a huge fan of the ''Jenny'' series, I just think any excuse to get people exploring it would be a great opportunity. I can happily tell you the order in which they come. I'll be trying to add to the whole Jenny side of the Wiki when my freetime allows it.
SOTO, since I saw you were here, I was wondering if you knew how I would source a DVD? There's a lot of uncredited cast info on the DVDs, and I don't know how you would source that. Would it be like this? ([[DVD]]: ''[[The War Games (TV story)|The War Games]]'')


Oh, and also, open Skype. ;) [[User:Cult_Of_Skaro|Cult Of Skaro Here.]]|[[User talk:Cult_Of_Skaro|Communicate here.]] 04:53, October 2, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks,
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Temporary forums[[edit source]]

Heya! Hope your new year has started off well, too! Mine has begun busily, and with a ton of inclement weather. So I'm running behind this week, along with it being a holiday week. So I'm not sure I'll reasonably be able to make this somewhat artificial deadline of the 24th to have the forums back in place. Would you mind giving me until Monday, 1 February? I'd rather avoid adding a second step to the forum restoration process if at all possible. Thanks!
czechout<staff />    02:55: Thu 20 Jan 2022

Hey :) I ran into another coupla roadblocks last week, and spo I couldn't get back over here. If y'all could give me another coupla weeks, I'd be super appreciative.
czechout<staff />    20:34: Tue 01 Feb 2022

Completely confused[[edit source]]

Hi! About those edits regarding Bessie (which I apologise for if it looked like vandalism, I just genuinely thought it was the case), I’m actually kinda confused - I don’t really remember any DWU TV stories that focus on fully sentient vehicles. I say TV stories since I’ve only really seen those, as they are usually more commercially available. Nor can I remember any other sentient DW vehicles as well, aside from the TARDIS. The only non-organic life forms I can think of with any sentience are the likes of the Autons, WOTAN, and K9. Could you direct me to any examples of sentient vehicles, as well as instances of vehicles narrating a DW story? Thanks! User:TARDIS9/SigUser:TARDIS9/TimeFormat 00:03: Tues 25 Jan 2022

Slothdoesthis[[edit source]]

Hi the user Slothdoesthis is repeatedly creating the Baron page Valeyard12.5 12:20, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

What does the “council” tag mean (w’ signature)[[edit source]]

On your profile, next to the administrator tag, there’s a “council” tag. You’re the only user I’ve seen so far with it. What does it mean? (Sorry for forgetting to sign the last time I did this) GaganTopia 21:31, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Vandal[[edit source]]

Making you aware of this violator: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/UR_MOTHER_GAMING DJAitch 20:47, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Fandom updates[[edit source]]

Hey there! I posted some Fandom updates here, which includes details on an upcoming MediaWiki upgrade to the platform. If you have any questions/feedback/comments on it, please do message on my talk page! As normal, if you wanted to continue a thread left by another admin too that'd be great to keep things in one place. Thanks! :) --Spongebob456 talk <staff/> 21:52, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Template:Wales crew update?[[edit source]]

Sorry to bother you, but do you have any idea when the updates to the "Wales crew" template might be completed? I know I've put in a lot of requests; apologies for cluttering up the talk page! As I mentioned before, I would love to learn how the template works so I could do the fiddly bits myself, although I completely understand if you'd rather just handle them centrally. Starkidsoph 21:16, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Deletion request[[edit source]]

Hello, I accidentally created a misspelt category that needs promptly deleting, "Category:Individuals Fairies", that I've remade as "Category:Individual Fairies", meant for Jasmine Pierce to denote her species. I hope the new category is acceptable and I apologise for the mistake. Kind regards. RedWizard98 15:20, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, other administrator has resolved issue, please ignore above. RedWizard98 20:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Rules and Blocking Policy[[edit source]]

Hey!

Recently, Fandom staff posted updates to the Fandom Wiki Rules and Blocking Policy. As a reminder, this is a global policy to aid the wellbeing of communities that all wikis have been following since 2021. These new changes go into effect on April 4th.

I'll let you read through those changes and if you have any questions, please let me know on my talk page! :) --Spongebob456 talk <staff/> 15:24, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Maps[[edit source]]

Hey! Made a post about the new Interactive Maps feature - does Tardis have any maps suitable for that? --Spongebob456 talk <staff/> 12:14, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Twice upon a Time Hartnell TARDIS[[edit source]]

On the Fugitive Doctor TARDIS page, it states.

"The TARDIS prop appears to have the exterior used by the First Doctor as played by David Bradley in Twice Upon a Time, originally created as a replica of the William Hartnell-era TARDIS for the docu-drama An Adventure in Space and Time. The TARDIS console also carries over from these productions."

This is not correct. This exterior was commissioned from ThisPlanetEarth, who make TARDIS exterior replicas. The Box was in fact their Pertwee style box that was altered to more resemble the way the TARDIS looked in 1966, as the box was modified during the War Machines. Because of these modifications, the Adventures in Space and Time box would no longer resemble the box in 1966, being more based loosely on the 1963 prop.


I can provide sources and evidence for this.

https://www.thisplanetearth.co.uk/maintardislanding.htm

https://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=7920.0

https://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=10227.0

https://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=5030.0

Crook[[edit source]]

How is a thief not a crook?

When you have time[[edit source]]

Hey SOTO. Someone made a change to {{Actor or crew member/preload}} and I don't know enough about that template to know if the change broke something, fixed something, or is entirely irrelevant to how this wiki functions because we don't use it anywhere. Could you check it at your earliest convenience? Najawin 08:12, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Forum issues / Talk to a user[[edit source]]

Hey, whenever you have the time, it would be nice if you could swing by Forum talk:Index. There's an ongoing discussion about our continuing lack of forums, and having some more feedback would always be nice. In addition, since I haven't asked you to be the bad guy since I've been back, could you please have a discussion with User:PepsiMagnet about their page creations? They're definitely engaging in good faith, but they keep creating pages with just a title and an infobox (and often the title is wrong, or the page shouldn't exist yet), and User:Shambala108 has already specifically told them not to create pages. Najawin 05:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Re: Image captions[[edit source]]

If it is against the rules... it should be stated in the rules, as I was able to point out this rule is not. A user should not have to blindly trust another "more experienced" user, especially one that the user has had problems with in the past. DrWHOCorrieFan 21:01, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

I struggle to see good faith in a user continually engaging with another user that has indicated that they do not want to interact with them. Surely this site has rules regarding that? Why should I have to interact with a user that makes me feel uncomfortable when they could just as easily ask an admin to intervene if they think I am doing something wrong? DrWHOCorrieFan 21:14, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

DrWHOCorrieFan[[edit source]]

Hi, SOTO. I left a message on this user's page because they've been consistently uploading images of more than 100 KB and haven't been categorising them. They've indicated that they don't intend to follow these rules, so I wonder if you might be able to have a word. Jack "BtR" Saxon 00:16, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Are there seriously no rules regarding harassment on this site? This is a very clear case.
I am a user who can take criticism and advice, all you have to do is look at User:OncomingStorm12th pointing out to me that a ton of pages I created were taking up space on Special:LonelyPages and I immediately combatted this by creating a template to house the pages. But I refuse to do so from a user who makes me feel deeply uncomfortable and that I have repeatedly asked to limit interaction with me. Making out that I'm refusing to follow the rules, rather than refusing to acknowledge a user who knows that they make me feel uncomfortable, is a fabrication. A user should not have to interact with someone who makes them feel uncomfortable. It isn't like I make a habit of accusing other users of this, it is a single user who I have had problems with in the past and no longer want to interact with. DrWHOCorrieFan 00:27, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

“You may” template[[edit source]]

Hiya - since you were the last admin to edit the "You may" template, you may want to look at the talk page I created for it, where I raised some issues. Over on Stranger Things Wiki, I designed the equivalent templates to ensure they don't create awkward squashed text. For the most part, TARDIS is excellently designed, but the issues with this particular template stick out like a sore thumb.
https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Template_talk:You_may TheGreatGabester 17:51, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Undelete talk page[[edit source]]

Hey, I'm not sure if this will be at all interesting, but when you have time could you undelete Talk:The mighty 200? I found a reference to it on an old talk page, so it might be worth looking at. Najawin 05:55, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Inclusion Debates 2.[[edit source]]

Hey, SOTO, that 10k Dawns thread is currently viewable in inclusion debates 2. The one nobody is supposed to be able to see. Najawin 04:31, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Obviously you're still moving stuff around, but just a heads up that User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon III is out of order. Absolutely no rush, what exists is fantastically workable compared to the early days of the wiki. But just to bring it to your attention. Najawin 08:03, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Please join me in Slack[[edit source]]

Hey hey! LTNS! Would you mind joining me in Slack to share your plans for the Forum?
czechout<staff />    18:03: Wed 10 May 2023

Actually a meeting in Diosco might be more convenient. Any chance you could stop by there and befrikend me, cause you don't seem to have your habndle in your provile. Mine is in my profile. You should know that the Forum namespace is now open. That would seem to obviate some of the plans CHris has told me you have made, and I'd like a chance to discuss a few things. Thanks!
czechout<staff />    02:55: Thu 11 May 2023

Heads up about the thanks extension[[edit source]]

Hi. I just wanted to give you a heads up that Tardis is testing the "thanks" extension which Fandom will be rolling out to all wikis soon. This extension allows editors to thank other editors for their edits. The editor being thanked will then recieve a notification. Therefore, while you're actively performing edits, you may receieve a few more notifications than normal. If you notice any bugs, pass them onto User:Spongebob456. Bongo50 19:58, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Admin+[[edit source]]

Hey there! I’m reaching out to introduce the Admin+ program (if you haven’t heard about it already!) & let you know I’m here if you have any questions about it. Take a look at the details here & feel free to send over any questions you have. pikushi ✧.* <staff /> 20:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Re: Discord[[edit source]]

Iii am so sorry, I messed up and made the request disappear — could you send it again? But it's very very good to hear from you. (EDIT: Okay, I've found the means to resend one to you myself, so… could you accept that one, haha? Sorry about this mess.) Scrooge MacDuck 20:19, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Outdated sentence on ParentsPage[[edit source]]

Hiya. Just wanted to point out that the ParentPage still cites the Peter Cushing films as invalid sources. WaltK 16:53, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Deadname forum[[edit source]]

Hey, could you perhaps take a look at Forum:Clarifying in-universe deadnaming policy in response to Rose Noble. I think it would be great to hear your view on the matter as this one might sit close to you, on both sides of the matter. Danniesen 11:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Sock puppet[[edit source]]

Hi, I have a favor to ask. I am probably the least technical person on this wiki, and I don't know how to check for sock puppetry, or even if I have the permissions to do that. There is a series of users, most with similar names, that have been uploading the same images, without licenses and breaking several other policies, over the last two weeks or so. I have given two of them short blocks for repeat offenses, but another one or more have appeared. It's pretty apparent from their behavior that they are most likely the same person using different names, especially after I blocked a couple of them. If you are able, could you check on User:Theincrediblehulk2003, User:Hulkbreaktheworld, User:Hulksmashtheworld and User:The Worldbreaker Hulk. There may be more, but these four are the ones I can recall. Thanks! Shambala108 16:29, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks and that answers my question, none of us have that ability :D Next time I'll go to Fandom staff. Thanks again, Shambala108 18:33, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

That weird IP user again[[edit source]]

Hey SOTO, if you could block 183.132.187.157 and delete the pages they created that would be lovely. Cheers. Najawin 09:08, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Prop delete query[[edit source]]

I've been looking through the Category:Proposed deletions category recently and noticed an inordinate amount are pages lurking as sub-pages of your page. Some of them are obviously archived forum pages, and others not, I just wanted to double check with you that these should be in the delete category (or not). --Tangerineduel / talk 13:58, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Forum Archives[[edit source]]

Hey, obviously zero, zero pressure. I'm just curious whether the plan is to move User:SOTO/Forum Archive to a more permanent location in the near future now that we're on the new site or if it's lower down on the priority list. If that's the plan, I'll hold off on adding threads from that era to my sandbox. (Again, absolutely no pressure here, this is just wondering so I can figure out how to organize my own stuff.) Cheers. Najawin 09:16, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Changing username[[edit source]]

Hi, SOTO. Bongolium said you might be able to help.

The "BtR" in my username was chosen because it was the initials of my first Wikia username so I could be recognised, but I'm not a huge fan of it. I also chose "Saxon" at random, so I'm not particularly attached to my username.

Would you be able to change my name to a mononymous "Jack"? If that's not possible, let me know and I'll spend some time thinking up a new and more unique one.

Thanks. Jack "BtR" Saxon 13:57, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

That's great, thanks very much. (And sorry about my problematic punctuation marks!) Jack 13:09, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the message[[edit source]]

Just wanted to say hey, thanks for the message. I had no idea about this shift, although I remember ages ago when Oasis was being changed or something, there was talk then about moving, and it was mostly in the 'too hard' basket. I considered staying over there, but with most of the admins left for here it would've been less than great to remain, I remember when we struggled for admins and it became a slog to keep things going. And as an "old guard" it certainly made me realise how long I'd been on the other place. --Tangerineduel / talk 05:14, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I too am a bit sad to be leaving too, especially so leaving the remaining admins who have stayed.
But then I think of changes like Twitter to X, that made me look into Mastodon. And at some point a decision needs to be made.
I don't get that involved at Wikimedia, I'm mostly categorising images and working through their backlog of images needing categories. But I'll look in and see how things are moving.
I've only been working my way through all the stubs and other pages like that. I keep cycling through all those maintenance categories as that's what I realised people were tagging stuff to be done, and then it was forgotten about, or never removed, I'm not worried about anything of that which might've been missed.
Only thing I've created in the past days was https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Tardis:User_talk_pages mostly to address a missing explainer that I think we all take for granted. I was sure it was explained elsewhere in a Manual of Style that might've been edited away.
I think most of our policies need a read through and check, there's a lot of stuff that's either been dropped because of changes to the wiki, or features been removed or other changes. So whether it's moved over or not doesn't matter.
I'll keep an eye out, bureaucrat wise for name changes. Although I think it might be sensible to add a "renaming" section to the user name policy, or to create a "User name renaming policy" or something like that. I can foresee a huge potential problem for sockpuppetry and other issues if we don't do due diligence on the renaming. It might be best if we just have a blanket 'no' until there's policy in place. And as a bureaucrat we ultimately carry the most blame / power regarding this. I had it for ages over there, and there were very few bureaucrats (very few people want the extra level of responsibility above admin), so I'm glad there's more here. --Tangerineduel / talk 06:07, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Renaming users[[edit source]]

I've seen your work on the Help:Changing your username, and we are risking this process getting away from us, very quickly.

I've drafted up a policy for name changes in brief; can only be done once ever 365 days, you need a certain number of edits. I'm not sure where to set the threshold for edit count, it can't be too low because you should just create a new account if that's the problem.

The full draft here: User:Tangerineduel/Sandbox 7.

But I also think we need to get all the other policies it references edited and in place, so possibly a pause on renames as well, while all this is going on. --Tangerineduel / talk 05:28, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Sure go ahead with edits. Only I will say when / if the policy comes to a point where it needs to go to a page I'll probably just copy and paste it, rather than moving. All my current sandboxes I've used, deleted and reused a several times.
If you think the edit history should be preserved I'll create another (new) sandbox with a clean history so it can be moved when the time comes.
I was just thinking back in the early days of the old wiki, I'm sure that's what people'd do, create a new account and say 'this is my new account'.
My intent with that wording was to minimise work for us.
Ideally this policy shouldn't need to be used, or it's difficult to be used, to reduce the amount of work that's needed behind the scenes. Even limiting to 1 a year, if we get people wanting a change or asking on talk pages etc, that's still going to add up. I know it's people from the old wiki taking the chance to change something at the moment. And I acknowledge that there's not a lot of people now but I'm looking ahead to potential problems.
The Tardis:Username policy should already cover any problematic user names. But we can add something that allows us to further enforce that.
I think the checkuser role really needs to be used extremely sparingly. I think I'd prefer to just liberally use the block function.
I agree we really need to consider how we represent ourselves now we're on our own. Back at the old place it was still wikia (and all it became) to point to as being the overseers of it all.
I'm happy to put my oar in if you want an additional voice, but I'm less technical and more policy and content minded, while trying to head off problems. —Tangerineduel / talk 13:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Infobox image[[edit source]]

Hi SOTO,

Just wanted to check in and apologise for editing the infobox gallery on The Doctor without community discussion. I had done so on 'Fandom' and nobody pulled me on it - not an excuse, it's just why I copied the edit over to here without realising I shouldn't have done. I have since started a discussion about it on the Talk page. My bad! — Fractal Doctor 19:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks[[edit source]]

Thanks for restoring my admin bit while I was bumbling around the new place. As I said to Tangerineduel, it’s nice to have it, even if, as Cassandra said about the Doctor’s “parts”, they’re barely used. —Josiah Rowe 19:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Absolutely! Welcome back to the family. I'm so glad you made it, after all. 💙SmallerOnTheOutside.pngSmallerOnTheOutside.png
(I noticed your note about keeping things on one talk page, so I'm following suit. I've heard whispers of a plan to discuss changing that convention in a forum discussion, so conversations are easier to follow. It is, after all, something quite peculiar to Tardis.)
×   SOTO contribs ×°//]   💬| {/-//:   06:45, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
(See Forum:Conversations across two user talk pages.) Najawin 07:55, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Oh, thank you!
×   SOTO contribs ×°//]   💬| {/-//:   08:36, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Username change[[edit source]]

Hi again SOTO, I believe you may be able to assist - if possible, I'd like to change my username to simply "Fractal". It doesn't appear to be registered, so I'm hopeful it can be done. I chose my original username based on old fanfiction, and no longer wish to be associated with it, but I would like to keep the "Fractal" element of it (which will also help with regards to people still recognising who I am). Please could you let me know if this is possible? Thank you. — Fractal Doctor 21:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC) Thank you kindly for the username change :) — Fractal Doctor 18:59, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Username Change[[edit source]]

Hi SOTO,

Back when I made my account, all those years ago, I was not very wise with my username choice. The less sites it is on the better, so can I please have it changed to Laura in the TARDIS. Thank you LauraBatham 08:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

That's perfectly fine. I'm happy to wait. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly (and for the pre-approval). LauraBatham 09:00, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for sorting that out for me. Laura 04:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

A month of edits, and a change of name[[edit source]]

I just want to say I appreciate just how much a behemoth of workload I'm sure you have, you're doing a great job. I'm just wondering what my options are, having had no idea this was even happening I did virtually a month's worth of edits which I'd love to get back. And also a change in username, if possible, would be nice, I'm thinking FuturesEnd. Thanks! StevieGLiverpool 07:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

RE: Welcome![[edit source]]

I'm glad to see everything transferred swimmingly! I'll have a double check to see if there's any edits I should manually get in here, but other than that sounds good. Many thanks for putting me at number 2! StevieGLiverpool 21:14, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

User rename policy[[edit source]]

Just thought I'd drop a message to say I've created Tardis:User rename policy and its related Tardis:User rename policy/Change request subpage. There's inuse tags on them so we can make any changes before making this official. --Tangerineduel / talk 04:03, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the edit and I have a question ^^'[[edit source]]

Hello, thank you very much for uploading my edits (sorry if it took me a long time to respond, I'm having A LOT of trouble to use the user page...I even don't know if it's the right place to ask that...) while I'm here I have a question, on my user page, is it possible to put one or two images that would not have their place on wiki pages, just to make it look nice for a little bio... If this is not the case, sorry for having disturbed :/ If so, how do we put other images that will not be used for the wikia, and sorry for the disturbance too... KaradegRara 15:36, 2 April 2024 (UTC)KaradegRara

Edit : Thanks a lot for the answer! ^^' KaradegRara 16:11, 2 April 2024 (UTC)KaradegRara

Light theme subheadings[[edit source]]

There's been an issue with the light theme for a number of days now where the subheadings appear blue, with the text themeselves being almost unreadable. I think it's to do with the subheadings being matched to the dark theme's background colour and not flipping to the corresponding light theme's background colour when that's used. I can't be the only one using the light theme, hoping you can help. --Tangerineduel / talk 04:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Sixth Doctor contents box[[edit source]]

Hi, not sure if you are the right admin for this, so please forward to the appropriate person. I was editing the Sixth Doctor's page, and his contents box is much lower down than expected, it's appearing at the start of the biography section, with a big gap between the infobox and the contents box. I have checked on multiple browsers, and that it isn't happening for other larger pages such as the Fifth, Seventh and Eighth Doctors. I can see a template on the page which is misplaced so could be a wider error in the page, unless the template is in an unexpected place. Thanks AdricLovesNyssa 21:20, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

CSS issue on transmat pages[[edit source]]

hi! i dont know if you're aware of this issue, but i was looking at some of the transmat pages (specifically Transmat:Torchwood, but i checked and the other transmat pages linked on the wiki's main page have the same issue) with the dark theme enabled and i noticed that the little boxes on these pages are white, and the text in them is light grey, which makes them pretty difficult to read.

--Juette 12:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Game of Rassilon and Badges[[edit source]]

Hi SOTO,

Is there any chance of badges and the Game of Rasillon returning to the new wiki?

SID'gingerfool'RAT - 🔎 |📂|📝 21:47, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Sandbox edit[[edit source]]

Is there any particular reason why you undid my last sandbox edit…? WaltK 03:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Aaaaaahhhh. Beg your pardon. WaltK 19:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Userbox-R[[edit source]]

Hi SOTO,

Do you have the technical know-how to make a userbox-r template, as I don't know how to.

Thanks in advance.

SID'gingerfool'RAT - 🔎 |📂|📝 20:10, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Where could I talk about an interpretation I have about "The Legend of Ruby Sunday"? ^^'[[edit source]]

Hello, I'm sorry to bother... again... but I just finished to watch "The Legend of Ruby Sunday" and it impacted me for personal reasons and I really want to talk about it, of my interpretation of someone's comeback and it echoed in my head about a dialogue between the 1st Doctor and Bill in "Twice Upon a Time" (I try to avoid spoils, just in case)
Edit : Nevermind, I just wrote it on my own page... sorry for the inconvenience :/ KaradegRara 22:10, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

The Last Day[[edit source]]

Hi, SOTO! Could I trouble you to merge The Last Day 1 (audio story) and The Last Day 2 (audio story) into The Last Day (audio story)? There's been a discussion about it. Jack 12:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Tagged[[edit source]]

Hey. Not that the wording choice matters, but "impliedly" is a word. It means, "in a manner that is hinted at or suggested rather than directly expressed". I probably first heard about it when learning how an Act of Parliament can impliedly repeal an early one, so perhaps it's more commonly used in the British legal world. Jack 19:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Nah, it's no problem! It should be as easy to understand as possible. Jack 20:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Jenny One and infobox[[edit source]]

Hi there, I was waiting for someone to come along who could help with Jenny. Firstly an easy one: since the naming system seems to have established itself as Jenny 7 and Jenny 8, it is perhaps best for us to rename Jenny One to Jenny 1? I think your rename of Category is a great idea too.

Secondly, would it be perhaps worth our time making one of those little infoboxes that sit on the side of a page with the Jenny ships in chronological order? As a huge fan of the Jenny series, I just think any excuse to get people exploring it would be a great opportunity. I can happily tell you the order in which they come. I'll be trying to add to the whole Jenny side of the Wiki when my freetime allows it.

Thanks, Thefartydoctor 22:36, 12 November 2024 (UTC)