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===Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors===
===Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors===
* The gates to the junkyard bear the label "I.M FORMAN", as a nod to the junkyard seen in the first ever episode ([[An Unearthly Child]]), and as a continuity link. (The Doctor also has knowledge of the geography of the junkyard). The junkyard in Unearthly Child however, is "I.M ''Foreman''" ''This is due to a time blip, as explained in [[The Algebra of Ice]].''
* The gates to the junkyard bear the label "I.M FORMAN", as a nod to the junkyard seen in the first ever episode ([[An Unearthly Child]]), and as a continuity link. (The Doctor also has knowledge of the geography of the junkyard). The junkyard in Unearthly Child however, is "I.M ''Foreman''" ''This is due to a time blip, as explained in [[PDA]] [[The Algebra of Ice]] and elaborated on in [[EDA]]: ''[[Interference - Book Two]]''.''
* When the Doctor is counting ten seconds until the Nitro-9 he obtained from Ace explodes, you can clearly see where the re-dubbed audio doesn't quite match the original footage.
* When the Doctor is counting ten seconds until the Nitro-9 he obtained from Ace explodes, it is clearly visible where the re-dubbed audio doesn't quite match the original footage.
* Various details, such as the "French Revolution" book in the science lab, match up with [[The Pilot Episode]] but not with [[An Unearthly Child]]. ''It's not known for certain if this is the exact same book Susan looked at.''
* Various details, such as the "French Revolution" book in the science lab, match up with [[The Pilot Episode]] but not with [[An Unearthly Child]].  
* The Doctor says that the Daleks are dependent on rationality and logic, whereas Daleks are actually driven by xenophobia and race hatred (it seems an ''especially'' odd statement as one of the story's core themes is racial purity). ''The Doctor is obviously referring to their battle strategies, not to their psychology.''
* The Doctor says that the Daleks are dependent on rationality and logic, whereas Daleks are actually driven by xenophobia and race hatred (it seems an ''especially'' odd statement as one of the story's core themes is racial purity). ''The Doctor is most likely referring to their battle strategies, not to their psychology.''
* In part 2, during the scene in the undertaker's, [[Ace]]'s baseball bat suddenly switches from the Doctor's left hand to his right. ([[Sophie Aldred]] points this out on the DVD commentary.)
* In part 2, during the scene in the undertaker's, [[Ace]]'s baseball bat suddenly switches from the Doctor's left hand to his right. ''([[Sophie Aldred]] points this out on the DVD commentary of this story.)''
* It is strongly suggested that the events of this story take place on or about 23 November, 1963, to coincide with the first broadcast of ''Doctor Who'' in real life, yet no reference occurs to the assassination of [[John F. Kennedy]] the day prior, or the subsequent death of Lee Harvey Oswald, both of which would have been dominant topics of conversation even in London. ''Although strongly suggested, it's not definitively stated that this takes place in November 1963; all we know is it takes place soon after the events of ''An Unearthly Child'' which could have taken place at an earlier or later date. The killing of Oswald didn't occur until the 24th, in any event.''
* It is strongly suggested that the events of this story take place on or about 23 November, 1963, to coincide with the first broadcast of ''Doctor Who'' in real life, yet no reference occurs to the assassination of [[John F. Kennedy]] the day prior, or the subsequent death of Lee Harvey Oswald, both of which would have been dominant topics of conversation even in London. ''Although strongly suggested, it's not definitively stated that this takes place in November 1963; all is known is it takes place soon after the events of ''An Unearthly Child'' which could have taken place at an earlier or later date. The killing of Oswald didn't occur until the 24th, in any event.''
* Also left unmentioned is the absence of teachers [[Ian Chesterton]] and [[Barbara Wright]] and student [[Susan Foreman]]; if this story takes place within a few days of the events of ''An Unearthly Child'' (as suggested by the presence of the "French Revolution" book), their absence should be noted by the police and the school undertaking investigations and news reports of a missing teenager and her teachers. ''This could all still be occurring "off screen".''
* Also left unmentioned is the absence of teachers [[Ian Chesterton]] and [[Barbara Wright]] and student [[Susan Foreman]]; if this story takes place within a few days of the events of ''An Unearthly Child'' (as suggested by the presence of the "French Revolution" book), their absence should be noted by the police and the school undertaking investigations and news reports of a missing teenager and her teachers. ''This could all still be occurring "off screen".''
* The Doctor proclaiming himself as "President Elect of the High Council" contradicts ''[[The Five Doctors]]'' in which he was named full president and ''[[The Trial of a Time Lord]]'' in which it was stated that he was deposed. ''Perhaps in an unchronicled adventure, he was reelected, or his deposition was reversed when it was discovered that the Trial had been orchestrated by enemy elements, or he might have been bluffing.''
* The Doctor proclaiming himself as "President Elect of the High Council" contradicts ''[[The Five Doctors]]'' in which he was named full president and ''[[The Trial of a Time Lord]]'' in which it was stated that he was deposed. ''He might have been bluffing.''
* Rachel Jensen uses the name Dalek without having heard it. - ''The Doctor shouts at the Dalek in the junkyard yelling among other things "Oi Dalek..." it is possible Jensen heard him along with the other main characters.''
* Rachel Jensen uses the name Dalek without having heard it. - ''The Doctor shouts at the Dalek in the junkyard yelling among other things "Oi Dalek..." it is possible Jensen heard him along with the other characters.''
* If it is 5:15 when the TV is playing then it should be dark. In addition, the Doctor asks the others to lunch, apparently later the same day. ''Again, it's never stated exactly when during the year this story takes place. If it's mid-summer then it wouldn't be dark at 5:15. It could be argued that this isn't supported by Susan Foreman arriving at the junkyard after dark after going home from school (presumably late-afternoon) in ''An Unearthly Child'' but that story never indicates if she actually went ''straight'' home.''
* If it is 5:15 when the TV is playing then it should be dark. In addition, the Doctor asks the others to lunch, apparently later the same day. ''Again, it's never stated exactly when during the year this story takes place. If it's mid-summer then it wouldn't be dark at 5:15. It could be argued that this isn't supported by Susan Foreman arriving at the junkyard after dark after going home from school (presumably late-afternoon) in ''An Unearthly Child'' but that story never indicates if she actually went ''straight'' home.''
* Ace is wearing a patch on her jacket of the Soviet sickle & hammer, and yet no one says anything, despite 1963 being the height of the [[Cold War]].'' Two army of daleks may have made it less important''
* Ace is wearing a patch on her jacket of the Soviet sickle & hammer, and yet no one says anything, despite 1963 being the height of the [[Cold War]].
* If Skaro was destroyed, how come it played a part in the [[ Last Great Time War]] between the Daleks and the Time Lords? '' The Daleks may claim that this was part of the Last Great Time War like how some consider that the Doctor attempting to stop the creation of the Daleks was an act of war, at the very least it  had a major impact on it.''


==Continuity==
==Continuity==

Revision as of 12:22, 24 February 2009


The Daleks shall become...THE LORDS OF TIME!!!Davros

Sypnosis

The Doctor and Ace battle two Dalek factions in 1963, London, both of them seeking the Hand of Omega, a Gallifreyan Superweapon. But will this be the end for the Daleks?

Plot

The Seventh Doctor and his companion Ace have landed the TARDIS in London, 1963, where the Doctor has unfinished business: The Hand of Omega, an ancient relic of the Time Lord civilization that the Doctor hid on Earth on a previous visit to 1963.

Unfortunately, the Daleks have also heard about the Hand of Omega, and are trying to find it before the Doctor does. To complicate matters, there are two groups of Daleks at work — the Daleks are currently in the midst of a civil war between those that accept and those that reject the leadership of their creator Davros, and each side wants the Hand for itself. The Imperial Daleks have set up an outpost at the Coal Hill School.

In the meantime, the alien activity around the Coal Hill area has attracted the attention of the military. Group Captain Gilmore and his unit engage a Renegade Dalek at the junkyard, destroying it with the help of the Doctor and Ace. The Doctor tries to convince Gilmore and his scientific advisor, Dr Rachel Jensen, that human weapons are no match for the Daleks and the best thing they can do is just stay out of the crossfire. The Doctor, however, is playing a deeper game — he wants the "right" Daleks to take possession of the Hand.

The Renegade Daleks enlist the help of a local fascist, Ratcliffe, in first obtaining the Hand, but they are soon attacked by the Imperial Daleks, who retrieve the Hand. Determining that the Imperial Daleks are from Skaro, the Dalek homeworld, the Doctor allows them to return to their mothership with it. The Imperial Daleks plan to use the Hand to create a power source that will give them mastery of time travel, a technology that the Daleks only have in the crudest sense.

However, when the Dalek Emperor, a much deteriorated Davros, activates the Hand, he also triggers a booby-trap that the Doctor has programmed into it. The Hand transports itself to the future which the Imperial Daleks have come from and turns Skaro's sun into a supernova, destroying the star system and Dalek homeworld, and then returns itself to Gallifrey. The resulting feedback blows up the Imperial Dalek mothership, but Davros manages to flee in an escape pod before its destruction. The Dalek Supreme, the last Renegade Dalek on Earth, destroys itself when told by the Doctor that it is the last of its kind.

Cast

Notes

Terry Molloy was credited by the pseudonym of "Roy Tromelly" in Part 3 to preserve the surprise of Davros' return.

Crew

References

Daleks

  • The Renegade Daleks have a Time Controller and Battle computer on Earth.
  • The Imperial Daleks (and Davros) use a Dalek Shuttle and Transmat to gain access to Earth.
  • The Imperial Daleks' 'base' is located within Coal Hill School.
  • At this stage, the Daleks are seen to have split into two factions - Imperial (lead by Davros) and Renegade (led by the Black Dalek) Davros has augmented the Imperial Daleks with cybernetic implants, whereas the Renegade Daleks have remained 'pure'. Although not explicitly stated, it can be reasonably inferred that the Imperial Faction have control of the Dalek home planet Skaro.
  • The Daleks use a human child linked into their battle computer in order to provide a random element to their battle strategies. This tactic was developed after the stalemates of the Dalek-Movellan War.
  • The Doctor constructs a Dalek jamming device which he used / built: "something like it on Spiridon".
  • The Imperial Daleks utilise a Special Weapons Dalek.

Foods and Beverages

  • Much tea is consumed, both in the cafe by the Doctor and Ace and by the military.
  • Ace orders "four bacon sandwiches and a cup of coffee." whilst in the cafe.

Time Lords and Gallifrey

Weapons

Story Notes

  • This story had a working title of Nemesis of the Doctor.
  • This is the first instance of a Dalek levitating up a staircase on screen. However, Davros appears to have the power of flight in Revelation of the Daleks, achieved with the same special effect. In The Chase a Dalek is seen to elevate from sand and it is implied they can move between the decks of the Marie Celeste.
  • This was the first story to be broadcast in NICAM stereo sound.
  • This is the first instance of a "skeleton effect" caused by Dalek weapons.
  • The pre-credits sequence includes clips from famous speeches including those of JFK, Charles de Gaulle, the Duke of Edinburgh and Martin Luther King.
  • In part 4, when Ace is attacked by The Girl at Mike's house, she hides behind the sofa. (If anybody has evidence that this was a deliberate reference to the popular cliché, please share it with us.)
  • This is the first story showing the inside of a Dalek (an Imperial one) in a scene where it's transmatting.
  • This is the first (and only) time in the series the Doctor Who series has been (possibly) mentioned, by an announcer on a TV, saying: "This is BBC television, the time is quarter past five and Saturday viewing continues with an adventure in the new science fiction series Do-" - and then the scene changes.

Ratings

  • Part 1 - 5.5 million viewers
  • Part 2 - 5.8 million viewers
  • Part 3 - 5.1 million viewers
  • Part 4 - 5.0 million viewers

Myths

to be added

Filming Locations

  • Theed Street, Southwark, London (Final confrontation with the Supreme Dalek)
  • Wootton Street, Southwark, London (Imperial & Renegade Dalek battle)
  • Braybrook Street, East Acton, London (Some of the conversation between the Doctor and Ace driving)
  • Wulfstan Street, East Acton, London (Some of the conversation between the Doctor and Ace driving)
  • TAVC, Horn Lane, Acton, London
  • Macbeth Centre, Macbeth Street, Hammersmith, London (Landing site of Imperial Dalek shuttle craft)
  • Windmill Walk, Southwark, London (Ace and the Doctor running away from Ratcliffe's yard)
  • Kew Bridge Steam Museum, Brentford, Middlesex (Foreman's Yard)
  • Old Oak Common Lane, East Acton, London
  • Willesden Lane Cemetary, Willesden, London
  • John Nodes Funeral Service, 181 Ladbroke Grove, London
  • Macbeth Street, Hammersmith, London
  • BBC Television Centre (TC8), Shepherd's Bush, London

Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors

  • The gates to the junkyard bear the label "I.M FORMAN", as a nod to the junkyard seen in the first ever episode (An Unearthly Child), and as a continuity link. (The Doctor also has knowledge of the geography of the junkyard). The junkyard in Unearthly Child however, is "I.M Foreman" This is due to a time blip, as explained in PDA The Algebra of Ice and elaborated on in EDA: Interference - Book Two.
  • When the Doctor is counting ten seconds until the Nitro-9 he obtained from Ace explodes, it is clearly visible where the re-dubbed audio doesn't quite match the original footage.
  • Various details, such as the "French Revolution" book in the science lab, match up with The Pilot Episode but not with An Unearthly Child.
  • The Doctor says that the Daleks are dependent on rationality and logic, whereas Daleks are actually driven by xenophobia and race hatred (it seems an especially odd statement as one of the story's core themes is racial purity). The Doctor is most likely referring to their battle strategies, not to their psychology.
  • In part 2, during the scene in the undertaker's, Ace's baseball bat suddenly switches from the Doctor's left hand to his right. (Sophie Aldred points this out on the DVD commentary of this story.)
  • It is strongly suggested that the events of this story take place on or about 23 November, 1963, to coincide with the first broadcast of Doctor Who in real life, yet no reference occurs to the assassination of John F. Kennedy the day prior, or the subsequent death of Lee Harvey Oswald, both of which would have been dominant topics of conversation even in London. Although strongly suggested, it's not definitively stated that this takes place in November 1963; all is known is it takes place soon after the events of An Unearthly Child which could have taken place at an earlier or later date. The killing of Oswald didn't occur until the 24th, in any event.
  • Also left unmentioned is the absence of teachers Ian Chesterton and Barbara Wright and student Susan Foreman; if this story takes place within a few days of the events of An Unearthly Child (as suggested by the presence of the "French Revolution" book), their absence should be noted by the police and the school undertaking investigations and news reports of a missing teenager and her teachers. This could all still be occurring "off screen".
  • The Doctor proclaiming himself as "President Elect of the High Council" contradicts The Five Doctors in which he was named full president and The Trial of a Time Lord in which it was stated that he was deposed. He might have been bluffing.
  • Rachel Jensen uses the name Dalek without having heard it. - The Doctor shouts at the Dalek in the junkyard yelling among other things "Oi Dalek..." it is possible Jensen heard him along with the other characters.
  • If it is 5:15 when the TV is playing then it should be dark. In addition, the Doctor asks the others to lunch, apparently later the same day. Again, it's never stated exactly when during the year this story takes place. If it's mid-summer then it wouldn't be dark at 5:15. It could be argued that this isn't supported by Susan Foreman arriving at the junkyard after dark after going home from school (presumably late-afternoon) in An Unearthly Child but that story never indicates if she actually went straight home.
  • Ace is wearing a patch on her jacket of the Soviet sickle & hammer, and yet no one says anything, despite 1963 being the height of the Cold War.

Continuity

Timeline

For the Doctor

  • Remembrance of the Daleks occurs after: to be added
  • Remembrance of the Daleks occurs before: to be added

For Davros

DVD, Video, and Other Releases

DVD Releases

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Released as Doctor Who: Remembrance of the Daleks, this release was the second release of 2001.

Released:

PAL - BBC DVD BBCDVD1040
NTSC - Warner Video E1183

Contents:

  • Deleted Scenes/Out-takes
  • Multi-Angle Sequences
  • Trailers
  • Music-only Option
  • Photo Gallery
  • Production Subtitles
  • Commentary: Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred

Rear Credits:

Notes: An error was made and the Region 2 DVD is missing some SFX from certain shots. The Australia/NZ release is in NTSC format, not the standard PAL format, due to an inability to clear the music and the SFX problem which had been corrected for the US DVD.

  • Second Release:

This second release was as part of the Davros box set (along with Genesis of the Daleks, Destiny of the Daleks, Resurrection of the Daleks and Revelation of the Daleks). The SFX errors and the Multi-Angle feature in the first release were corrected, the Photo Gallery revised and expanded, and the following additions made to the DVD package:

Video Releases

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Released as Doctor Who: Rememberance of the Daleks.

Released:

  • First Release:
PAL - BBC Video BBCV5005
NTSC - Warner Video E1145

Notes: Released in a special edition Dalek Tin along with The Chase and a book entitled The Daleks. The US release featured no book or tin, both stories packaged in one box without individual artwork.

  • Second Release:
PAL - BBC Video BBCV7255

Notes: W.H. Smith exclusive as part of the The Davros Collection box set.

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Novelisation

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Main article: Remembrance of the Daleks (novelisation)

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