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Thinly-veiled characters[[edit] | [edit source]]

Doctors[[edit] | [edit source]]

Masters[[edit] | [edit source]]

Other DWU characters[[edit] | [edit source]]

Non-DWU characters[[edit] | [edit source]]

Gerry Anderson universe[[edit] | [edit source]]

Main article: Talk:The Indestructible Man (novel)#Parallels

Blake's 7[[edit] | [edit source]]

Alien[[edit] | [edit source]]

Valid references to non-valid stories[[edit] | [edit source]]

An index of topics on this wiki which would be easier to cover using {{NCmaterial}} and my subpage proposal. Per Tardis:Valid sources#Terminology, I've divided them between "invalid" and "not covered". Please feel free to add to this list!

Invalid stories[[edit] | [edit source]]

Invalid story Reference Incorporated?
"The Pilot Episode" Unnatural History, Escape Velocity, and Deadline mention the Doctor's possible origin in the 49th century Tardis Red x mark.png
Do You Have a Licence to Save this Planet? The Bloodletters mentions the Chiropodist Tardis Red x mark.png
Attack of the Graske Opera of Doom! references the ABBA concert Tardis Red x mark.png
Monster File: Christmas references the changelings Tardis Red x mark.png
Whatever Happened to Sarah Jane? references "the Graske activity on Earth a few years ago" Tardis Red x mark.png
Journey's End and SJAF 1 reference Griffoth Tardis Blue check mark.png
The Twelfth Doctor Interactive Story Big Bang Generation mentions Time Squids and Crinis Tardis Red x mark.png
Time Fracture Time Fracture Show Companion, UNIT Field Log, This is Sergeant Robert Dudley., et al. Tardis Red x mark.png

Not covered stories[[edit] | [edit source]]

Here I'm considering specifically licensed crossovers, not unofficial crossovers like the various appearances of Sherlock Holmes.

Concept Relevant NC appearances Incorporated?
Kemble Fireball XL5 episode Space Vacation Tardis Blue check mark.png
Special Executive Captain Britain (The Daredevils, Captain Britain Monthly, Excalibur) Tardis Red x mark.png
{{Hitchhikers}} The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Tardis Blue check mark.png
Chronotis Dirk Gently Tardis Red x mark.png
Richard Mace Eric Saward radio plays The Assassin (1974), Pegasus (1975), The Nemesis Machine (1976) Tardis Red x mark.png
Gwanzulum Other Marvel UK comics at the time, including Combat Colin, Thundercats, and The Real Ghostbusters Tardis Red x mark.png
Fred, {{Audio Visuals}} Audio Visuals; The Wanderer Tardis Red x mark.png
Cyberons, Lauren Anderson Cyberon: Cyber-Hunt, Cybergeddon, Cyberon, The Planet That Armageddon Forgot Tardis Red x mark.png
Adrienne Kramer Time Rift fan film Tardis Red x mark.png
Phoenix Court characters Phoenix Court series Tardis Blue check mark.png
Carnell Blake's 7: Weapon Tardis Red x mark.png
Gauda Prime Blake's 7: Blake Tardis Red x mark.png
Quantum mnemonics Adrian Middleton's Apocrypha Tardis Red x mark.png
Tegorak Tardis Blue check mark.png
Pengallia Tardis Red x mark.png
Zargathons The Zargathon Menace in Perfect Timing Tardis Red x mark.png
Grant Markham Wish Upon a Star Beast and Schrodinger's Botanist in Perfect Timing Tardis Blue check mark.png
Carmen Yeh Schrodinger's Botanist in Perfect Timing Tardis Blue check mark.png
Johnny Chess Chain Male in Perfect Timing; Disturbance at the Heron House in Missing Pieces; et al. Tardis Red x mark.png
Venusians Venusian Sunset in Perfect Timing; Blue Venus in Tales of the Solar System; By the Time I Get to Venus Tardis Red x mark.png
Miranda Dawkins, Last Contact Lance Parkin's charity stories Fishy Business, Iris Explains, The School of Doom Tardis Blue check mark.png
Klade Philip Purser-Hallard's Retrogenesis (in Forgotten Lives II, with permission of Lance Parkin)
Gallowglass Commune in Myth Makers 13 Tardis Red x mark.png
Alcestis False Gods in Myth Makers Presents: Essentials Tardis Blue check mark.png
Joel Mintz Room With No Doors – A Cutaway in Missing Pieces Tardis Red x mark.png
Fitz Kreiner Stephen Cole's Fitz Kreiner and the Onion of Doom in Missing Pieces Tardis Red x mark.png
Jacqueline Maguire All the Time in the World in Missing Pieces Tardis Red x mark.png
Charlotte Pollard Head in the Sand in Missing Pieces Tardis Red x mark.png
Anji Kapoor Going Home in Missing Pieces Tardis Red x mark.png
Craig Hinton's mythos Aspects of Evil in Missing Pieces; The Quantum Archangel Notes in Shelf Life; Time's Champion Tardis Red x mark.png
Patience's husband
Rassilon's purge of the Loom-born
Executive Action in Walking in Eternity; Past Lives in Forgotten Lives Tardis Red x mark.png
Old man, Iphegenia Analysis in Walking in Eternity, et al. Tardis Red x mark.png
Spiderweiss Man of Smoke and Dust in Walking in Eternity Tardis Blue check mark.png
Sebastian Grayle Seasons of Fear novelisation in LifeDeath Tardis Red x mark.png
Iris Wildthyme Bafflement & Devotion; The Runaway Hi-Fi in A Second Target for Tommy Tardis Red x mark.png
Brenda and Effie Jacobs The Brenda and Effie Mysteries Tardis Red x mark.png
The Cold Cold Snap in Kim Newman's Diogenes Club series Tardis Red x mark.png
Reginald Forthman, Pik Lim Bibliophage (covered, but see talk page; see also the rest of Decalog 5: Wonders) Tardis Blue check mark.png
Claudia Marwood The Stranger Tardis Red x mark.png
Minka BBC One's Warriors Tardis Red x mark.png
Marcie Hatter Russell T Davies' Dark Season Tardis Red x mark.png
Sandra Mitchell Russell T Davies' Children's Ward Tardis Red x mark.png
Vivaldi inheritance Russell T Davies' Mine All Mine; see also that series' Yanto Jones Tardis Red x mark.png
Guinevere One Russell T Davies' Years and Years Tardis Red x mark.png
The Rose & Crown Steven Moffat's Dracula Tardis Blue check mark.png
Harold Chorley (?) Steven Moffat's Sherlock Tardis Red x mark.png
Drunk man et al. With All Awry from Mythmakers Presents: Golden Years 1963-2013 Tardis Red x mark.png
Señor 105 The Periodic Adventures of Señor 105; The Time Wrestlers in A Target for Tommy Tardis Red x mark.png
Sentients "Scene to Uncover" in Forgotten Lives 2 Tardis Red x mark.png
Manleigh Halt Irregulars Obverse Books' charity anthology Storyteller Tardis Red x mark.png
Theo Possible Significant Others; Grumpy Auld Men in A Target for Tommy Tardis Red x mark.png
Butterfly room The Caterpillar Room in A Second Target for Tommy Tardis Red x mark.png
Clockwork owl Newbury & Hobbes: The Osiris Ritual Tardis Red x mark.png
Jerry Cornelius Michael Moorcock's Multiverse Tardis Red x mark.png
Vince Cosmos, et al. Baker's End Tardis Red x mark.png
The Ninnies on Putney Common Paul Magrs' The Ninnies Tardis Red x mark.png
Raithaduine, Judy Collins, Enigma Tree Rachel Redhead's Refugees of the Raithaduine; Orphans of the Raithaduine; The Enigma Variations; The Inferior Comedy; The Wander Years; Time's Enema; Breaking the Fourth in Nine Lives Tardis Red x mark.png
Archons The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel Tardis Red x mark.png
Frank Archer Magic Bullet Productions' The Time Waster and Radio Bastard Tardis Red x mark.png
Slarvians The Slarvian Menace and Queen of Slarvos in Big Finish's The Tomorrow People Tardis Red x mark.png
Samuel Barnett's Cicero Big Finish's Cicero Tardis Red x mark.png
Alexander Vlahos' Dorian Gray Big Finish's The Confessions of Dorian Gray Tardis Red x mark.png
Nicholas Briggs' Sherlock Holmes Big Finish's Sherlock Holmes Tardis Red x mark.png
Return of the Repressed's Sigmund Freud Big Finish's The Sigmund Freud Files (they totally implied this in an ad once or something! (?) (!!)) Tardis Red x mark.png
Kerides The Kerides the Thinker series Tardis Red x mark.png
Cinder, Sarkovians The Moments In Between in Seasons of War Tardis Blue check mark.png
Kalkrav Climbing the Mountain in Seasons of War Tardis Blue check mark.png
"Chronosmiths" The Chronosmith Chronicles, per the "Chronosmith" alias established in Seasons of War? Edge case Tardis Red x mark.png
Rachel Edwards, Auteur, et al. 10,000 Dawns Tardis Red x mark.png
Erimem Splinter of Eternity in Master Pieces Tardis Red x mark.png
John Polidori Valour and Vanity (via Wringing Off) Tardis Red x mark.png
Mocata Grange The Breath of God, one of the Titan Sherlock Holmes books Tardis Blue check mark.png
The Brigadier When Times Change… Tardis Red x mark.png
Perdix Seconds Tardis Red x mark.png
The Man in Black See also The Man in Grey Tardis Red x mark.png

Realities[[edit] | [edit source]]

Every Doctor Who story gives us a new picture of the Doctor's reality. Technically speaking, we could create [[The Doctor's reality (Story Name)]] for every story on the wiki which features the Doctor. But the primary question I believe we should be asking in merge-related conversations is "Is it useful to our readers to have separate pages?" In most cases, there's no reason to doubt that a story depicts the same reality as its predecessor, whether that's the previous Virgin New Adventures novel, Monthly Adventures audio, or TV episode.

But there are several notable exceptions preventing us from merging everything into a single The Doctor's reality. When it comes to continuity, tone, and worldview, the Doctor Who universe's many spin-offs and sub-series have usually been more concerned with themselves than each other. For instance, within a series such as The Monthly Adventures, one can expect to find more references to previous audios and the Classic show than the Virgin Decalogs or Doctor Who annuals. As a result, a story's predecessor often simply isn't clear. Is the first Virgin New Adventures novel, Timewyrm: Genesys, best understood as a continuation of the prior TV episode, Survival, or the prior novel(isation), The Curse of Fenric?

The result of this thought process is a discrete number of relatively self-contained chunks of the Doctor's reality, roughly mapping onto the real-world series or sets of series. It's natural that this would be the most helpful to our readers. Sometimes these pieces have ebbed and flowed into each other through shared characters or references; other times, they have gone out of their way to paint each other as separate timelines or universes. While acknowleding that most sources indicate these chunks to be the same reality, covering them separately helps to highlight the ways in which they stand on their own. TheChampionOfTime and MrThermomanPreacher have paved the way for this with the creation of pages like Virgin reality and The Doctor's reality (An Unearthly Child). I've contributed to MrThermomanPreacher's collaborative chart of these "reality" pages.

A rough list of potential and disputed diverging continuities/timelines/universes to keep track of things. Generally speaking, simple alternate timelines caused by clear changes to history (Day of the Daleks etc.) and explicit parallel universes separate from "N-Space" such as Pete's World and the Unbound Universe should not be included here; to see them go to User:Chubby Potato/Sandbox/List of realities, though that's not to say that the realities listed below may not be added there if so desired.

This page is very much a work in progress. Feel free to add or edit. Suggestions or recommendations are welcome.

Name First Appearance Notes
The Doctor's universe TV: An Unearthly Child (1963) The world of which all these realities are differing accounts or alternative versions. Per T:NPOV, each disputed reality has approximately equal claim to representing the "real" account of the Doctor's universe.
Original palimpsest universe NOTVALID: The Pilot Episode (1963) An overwritten reality and potentially the original version of history, suggested by the boy, in which the Doctor was a human who came from "some planet" in the 49th century. (PROSE: Unnatural History)
The Doctor's reality (An Unearthly Child) ("Hartnellverse") TV: An Unearthly Child (1963) The original "continuity" which begins in the very first episode with the First Doctor played by William Hartnell in Totter's Lane. Later developments establish his ability to regenerate, his disputed origin as a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey and the conflicting accounts of incarnations preceding the First Doctor.
John and Gillian's world COMIC: The Klepton Parasites Disputed TV Comic continuity in which "Dr. Who", based on the First Doctor (William Hartnell) then the Second Doctor (Patrick Troughton), travels with grandchildren John and Gillian.
Yarvelling's reality COMIC: Genesis of Evil Disputed TV Century 21 continuity in which the Daleks humanoid "forefathers" are the blue-skinned Daleks and the Dalek War Machines were created by Yarvelling. Most notably disputed by the introduction of Davros and the Kaleds in Genesis of the Daleks. Potential connections to both the Hartnellverse and the Cushingverse.
Dr. Who's reality (Dr. Who and the Daleks) ("Cushingverse") TV: Dr. Who and the Daleks The alternative continuity home to the human Dr. Who, played by Peter Cushing.[1]
The Doctor's reality (Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks) PROSE: Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks Disputed Target novelisation continuity in which the Doctor and Susan settled in Barnes Common, along with many other slight or major differences.
"Dalek timeline" TV: Genesis of the Daleks (mentioned only) A potential future in which the Daleks have exterminated all other life, motivating the Time Lords to prevent this from happening by enacting the Genesis Incident.
Genesis timeline TV: Genesis of the Daleks The disputed results of the Fourth Doctor's interference in the Daleks' early history.
2-D universe COMIC: The Iron Legion The reality of the Doctor Who Magazine comic stories.
Virgin reality PROSE: Timewyrm: Genesys The reality of the Virgin Books New Adventures, Missing Adventures, and Decalogs.
Braxiatel Collection's revised timeline The divergent continuity of Big Finish's Bernice Summerfield series,
Barusa's universe PROSE: The Chronicles of Doctor Who? The universe of the Leekley Bible.
The Doctor's reality (The Eight Doctors) PROSE: The Eight Doctors The reality of the BBC Eighth Doctor Adventures novels.[2]
Infinity Doctor's reality PROSE: The Infinity Doctors (1998) The unique state of reality home to the Infinity Doctor.
The Doctor's reality (The Curse of Fatal Death) TV: The Curse of Fatal Death (1999) The divergent continuity home to the Ninth Doctor (Rowan Atkinson) and beyond.
Positive-time universe The reality of Big Finish Productions' Monthly Adventures, including Eighth Doctor's travels with Charley Pollard.
Reality (Auton) TV: Auton The reality of the Auton Trilogy.
The Doctor's reality (Scream of the Shalka) NOTVALID: Scream of the Shalka (2003) The divergent continuity home to the Ninth Doctor as played by Richard E Grant.
Auld Mortality's universe AUDIO: Auld Mortality [3]
Cyberverse TV: Real Time A divergent continuity where Cybermen become dominant in the universe, depicted as an alternate reality in PROSE: Spiral Scratch.
The Doctor's reality (The Not-So-Sinister Sponge) The reality of the "Special Occasions" stories in Short Trips and Side Steps, based on the Doctor Who annuals.
Infected timeline (Interference) PROSE: Interference et al. The timeline established by the rewriting of the Third Doctor's death.
War Era universe PROSE: Alien Bodies et al. The War in Heaven.
Post-War universe PROSE: The Burning et al. The reality following the War in Heaven. One of several competing versions of the post-War universe is the Council of Eight's universe.
Pre-Time War universe TV: An Unearthly Child[source needed] The state of reality prior to the Last Great Time War, primarily seen in the "classic series" and spin-off works prior to the introduction of the "new series".
Time War timeline The distinct, fluctuating state of reality during the Last Great Time War. Mostly sealed off from the normal universe by time lock.
Gallifrey's history (The Day of the Doctor) A potential history in which Gallifrey was in fact destroyed at the end of the Time War before history was changed so that it survived in The Day of the Doctor (2013). May or may not be related to that seen in Doctor Who and the Time War.
Post-Time War universe TV: Rose (2005) The state of reality in the "new series" in which the "Ninth Doctor" (Christopher Eccleston) follows the War Doctor, who himself followed the Eighth Doctor. Lasts at least up to the end of the Tenth Doctor's life (the RTD era).
Cracked universe (The Eleventh Hour) TV: The Eleventh Hour (2010) The damaged universe seen throughout Series 5 (the Eleventh Doctor's first series).
Starless world TV: The Big Bang (2010) The last stage of the cracked universe before Big Bang Two.
Rebooted universe (The Big Bang) TV: The Big Bang (2010) The restored universe introduced in the Series 5 finale. Presumably the current state of reality at least as far as the television series is concerned.
Lethbridge-Stewart's universe (The Forgotten Son) PROSE: The Forgotten Son The alternate timeline setting of Candy Jar Books' Lethbridge-Stewart series.
Collapsing Universe PROSE: Blood Heat Second Iteration The setting of Jim Mortimore's "Director's Cut" novels.
Cutaway universe COMIC: Down These Mean Streets A Man Must Go Continuity of Cutaway Comics' Lytton.

Footnotes[[edit] | [edit source]]

  1. Including not just the theatrical films but also The House on Oldark Moor.
  2. Divided into a countable number of epochs, including the Blonde Sam timeline, The Relic's timeline, and Infected timeline (Interference).
  3. Compare other Doctor Who Unbound universes, such as the Unbound Universe, Parallel universe (Deadline), and particularly Parallel universe (Full Fathom Five), which ties into the main-continuity 2040 timeline (The Nuclear Option) from Short Trips: 2040.